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between July 8 1947 beyond the airport

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through Capernaum start applying this

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type of ground and is now in the

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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fade to black the spoke radio for da

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masses yeah man how you doin

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today's Tuesday August 22nd

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two hundred and thirty days into the new

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year just 130 days left we are live from

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a bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to black I'm

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getting text right now baby Martin's

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listening to me hey Martin are you

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wearing your fade to black shirt right

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now all right tonight all right for kjc

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are the game changer Network than kgr

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aid the planet on meros Timmy Church

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what is going on did you have a good

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Eclipse day yesterday we did we did it

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a bit and depending on where you were in

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the country I'm sure you got a little

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piece of something no matter what but

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the closer you were to that track the

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more fantastical it got and we were

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right there and it was a pretty amazing

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pretty amazing so we'll talk about that

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in just a minute so that was yesterday

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so we took the day off we rolled back

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easy way in and out to go inside of

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take changed planes twice and still

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rented a car and still drove two hours

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so by the time we were all done if we

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chose to fly it would have been a nine

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nine and a half hour trip so we just

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thought let's just pack up the car we'll

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take Teddy which we did and and we drove

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up and it was it was just a great time

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a half hours on the road very cool

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turned around and came back I will uh

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I'll address all of this in a minute

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but tonight tonight on the show Mel

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fàbregas is with us and host of veteran

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host a Veritas radio so its Veritas on

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f2b it's kind of like what I'm calling

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to Mel over the years just a great

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interviewer a great style a great way of

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looking at the world but you know what I

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and I thought about this I don't know if

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I've ever heard Mel interviewed yeah so

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there you go tonight will be host to

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host a Veritas radio on unfaded blocks

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such a cool guy so tonight Mel fàbregas

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eclipse show tomorrow night he he was up

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yesterday and so we're gonna do that

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other special guests tomorrow night so

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dial in for that and then Thursday it is

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as only Ralph Ellis can do it so that's

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that we will have Jon Rappoport don't

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you freak out Jon Rappoport will be here

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with us no more fake newsroom live don't

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Church radio simple enough at Jay Church

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radio everything is on Facebook and

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YouTube everything is fade to black or

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something game-changer Network you can

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go find it follow like and subscribe

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over on our website now a couple of

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I got email didn't have a chance to get

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into it today but I will look at this

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that and because I went and looked my

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issues everything is there but I'm gonna

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tomorrow but I think if somebody is

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saying that Epis in the membership area

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that episode like 704 or 705 is missing

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it's missing or if there's something

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have seen a missing episode from last

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week because I know everything is there

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up in I heart everything is you know

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what I mean everything is there so I'm

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tomorrow but if you've seen anything

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missing let me know okay

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all right we've been a little bit backed

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up on t-shirts and hats and getting

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those shipped out amongst other things

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and all of the housecleaning here all of

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the ketchup that we need to do will be

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done over the next 24 to 48 hours so if

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you've been waiting for something if we

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double shipped you and didn't ship to

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somebody else I got all that you send

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stuff to me twice okay I get that we're

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gonna do an immense amount of

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housecleaning over the next couple of

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few days dialing that stuff in okay

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because we had a water heater that blew

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ok email throughout the show Jimmy and

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of you fade or not so I'm showing it in

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the camera there's my sacred skull Judah

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Kyle look at that he is an artiste real

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artist so we've got that stuff up here

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let me see if I can get this link up

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here one more time there it is sacred

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skulls I'm putting this up in Twitter

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right now unbelievable artists and I

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can't wait to get him on the show it's

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just a guy like this where it takes him

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two years to do one of these skulls two

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years two years so think about that all

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one-of-a-kind and they're absolutely

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incredible so go and check out sacred

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skulls and the link is right there okay

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ah let's get this show cracking right

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now happy birthday to today Kristen Wiig

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is 44 Cindy Williams today is 70 of

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course you played Shirley Feeney on

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Laverne and Shirley and great by the way

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in American Graffiti both films

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The Mary Tyler Moore Show then they did

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our dead guys birthday today is layne

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sharpshooter lon you Chee wounds

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Randy Weaver Kevin Harrison and kills

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mental fàbregas on Thursday night Ralph

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Ellis is gonna be here live from Europe

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and John rabe reports gonna be here or

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blood tumor blood clot and they took him

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great and then he chose to chose to

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weekend and then you know just caught

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everybody by surprise so we did did a

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little prayer we did a little meditation

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and we were doing the sky watch when the

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announcement had come in and and at that

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moment I spin around I said the next

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thing that we see we will we'll call it

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the Thompkins 2017 object and right as I

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said that and it was right as I said I

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spin around look up shooting star just

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blast it across the sky and that was a

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I want a little toast a bill and I don't

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want everybody to be sad because being

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sad is the wrong way to go

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he lived in 94 94 he did he did

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everything his way throughout his life

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and he will be talked about for decades

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and decades to come

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he left us with a vast body of research

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and knowledge and tools for us to

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continue and it affected Cory as it

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should it affect it David as it should

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because they were working together and

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and supporting each other and writing

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books and plans and doing things he was

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just at the MUFON symposium last month

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and was was all good it was all good but

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he passed away over the weekend and

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there were some rumors going around that

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that him going to the edge of the cliff

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like he did he went to the edge he took

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life to the edge he took his foot he

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stuck it out there in the dark and felt

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the edge of the cliff you know there it

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is

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he was right there think about that

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that's what he did for us don't be sad

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dude took a peek took a peek took a peek

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he's in another dimension drawing

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pictures there you go bill Tompkins 94

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passed away this weekend all right now

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back to the Eclipse so Rupp there

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yesterday and I didn't really know what

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to expect because the last time I

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remember going through in Eclipse I was

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in Michigan I was like 7 years old if my

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memory is right I was at the right place

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that I'm thinking I'm so long ago

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I didn't see much I remember the pinhole

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thing in the shoebox and looking at it

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and I was seven and you know I remember

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getting it a little cloudy and then it

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was over but that's not the way this

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went down yesterday we're gonna go a

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little bit deep deeper tomorrow but a

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couple of cool things happen and the

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first thing that I did not expect and

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nobody else there did nobody was talking

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about this part of it where we were and

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we had like 90 they were saying it was

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90 percent I think it was a little

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higher than that probably you know 90 95

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percent nearly a total eclipse where we

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were at Mount Shasta that it was hot

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Mount Shasta a hundred degrees 95

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degrees hundred degrees humid hot the

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whole time when the eclipse started to

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kick into full gear as it was moving

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across it got cold it got cold it got

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cold cold it dropped like I don't know

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20 30 degrees in in minutes minutes it

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was really trippy because we were

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dealing with the heat up there all

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weekend and just just got cold and and

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the colors changed now this wasn't like

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the colors when the clouds go over the

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Sun this was a bit different it looked

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like sepia tone to me it was like weird

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man everything went like red and orange

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was trippy so that's going on and it

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lasted for a while there were quite a

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bit of quite a few pictures that are

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posted out there of Rita and I and

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everybody up there and I saw everybody

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else's - very cool but when you when you

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looked at it

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it had this this this thing because it

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was such a huge event a huge solar space

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thing you could tell and I'm looking at

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it in the with the glasses on

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and I'm looking and I fell felt weird

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and cool at the same time like this was

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some thing happening that the Sun big I

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could feel it the electricity in the air

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was a it was a very fun thing we

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probably had around us up there at the

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mill definitely a few hundred people or

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more that were up there witnessing it

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was there was so many people so it's

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hard for me to guess but everybody

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looking up at the same time and and

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spending it with Rita and and we just

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made it all the more special so for us

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it was really really really really cool

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and really amazing and the event itself

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went off without a hitch

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no technical errors nothing everything

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was everything was good the packed house

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every night as you could see with with

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all the photographs that that I put out

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there but that that's always just the

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bonus but the people that were there all

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of the attendees were great now let's

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put that aside for a second let me tell

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you what was really really cool about

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this conference the speakers were

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amazing and intense Jay Widener lit it

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on fire

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we expect that okay so that's that's

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that part we expect up but Jay lit it up

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Cory did four different presentations

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and all were really good he did three q

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and A's and interviews with other with

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other gas town station and then he did

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one by himself so he did four for Justin

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des Champs incredible jordan saylor I

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think he did three different

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presentations and he opened up the show

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every single day Theresa NREL's amazing

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I could go with Michael Salah lit it up

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I can go on and on but though is the

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style and the way that everything was

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done

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Oh Oh Gerald Oh Donald oh man whoo so

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he's gonna be on the show too as well

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and Benton yo Massaro I cannot wait till

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he is on this show an amazing

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presentation so for for everybody that

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was there okay where was this

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let's see who's this a picture of I

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can't tell oh yeah there yeah it's Cory

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the the way that these presentations

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were done the way that the subjects were

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chosen and presented amazing and the the

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facility McCloud the city a town all all

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combined into just a really great event

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and you had Mount Shasta you know

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staring down at you the entire time very

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cool

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all right and we'll talk more about this

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over over the next few days and Rita has

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got a zillion pictures so we'll we'll

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get all of those up there too as well

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and we took teddy if we took daddy oh

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man great just a great event and a great

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mixer that they put together too as well

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more on that later

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I do want to say this putting the

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Eclipse aside and Bill Tompkins subject

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number three really quick today because

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we've been out of touch for five days

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you know no CNN no TV none zero TV for

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five days at all

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so today get into the bunker and and and

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it turns out and you can't I don't

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believe you can see this from your side

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you would have to go insert a little bit

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deeper but it turns out I got hit by

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YouTube so I called the management

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company that handles our the management

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of our YouTube channel and I call him up

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and he immediately the the main guide

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the manager that always goes I his

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name's Ian you got hit didn't you I

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won't

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let me tell you what's gonna no no no

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you got hit and their weight everybody

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is getting hit and everybody that we

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manage over here because they're larger

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YouTube channels they have a lot of

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content a lot of views a lot of this a

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lot of advertising they're all getting

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hit I've been on the phone all day I

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said really yeah they started this

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weekend so and what happened we have 700

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YouTube videos and I just signed on to

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YouTube just to see what's going on and

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kind of check and I see all these flags

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buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh boom

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boom boom

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you have been flagged you have been

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flagged advertising your your this

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material is not advertiser friendly what

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and it was it was a trip to see this now

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we have been a YouTube partner for four

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years we have had no issues none when it

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comes to this stuff we initiate the

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problems we don't have problems coming

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to us for anything YouTube loves us and

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and here we virtually every other videos

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been flagged every one we have to go now

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we have 700 videos up it looks like out

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of 700 about 250 or 300 about a third

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every other other one it's been flagged

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and we have to go into a manual review

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and appeal think about that that's right

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and so virtually they've shut our

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channel down as far as income goes so

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the and the way that this appeals

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process works with YouTube and this is

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on notice that unless my video has had a

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thousand views in the last seven days or

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more then it can it can be appealed but

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if not and it's just there then I can't

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appeal it

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the

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apparently what has gone on YouTube has

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fired up a software program that is

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looking for flags in audio content okay

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and it's searching for keywords keywords

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and I'm looking at who they flagged they

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have flagged all of my Jim Marrs

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interviews every single one which were

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all titled the view from Mars right part

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1 part 2 part 3 part 4 whatever all of

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those Steven Greer's flagged Wilcock and

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good are okay trip on that but Linda

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Moulton Howe is not and and this is just

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going through the first 200 video I mean

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just scrolling from page to page I am

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just infuriated I mean I just can't

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believe this and we it's just now I

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don't know who is choosing so we we can

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no longer have a description of the show

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up can't do that we can't have any tag

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words can't do it they have a list of

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thousands of words that will immediately

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flag all of this now I don't use lots of

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key words out there that would flag

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things Isis you know Trump you know I

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don't do that stuff but and we don't

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talk about that stuff on the show but we

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do it enough where if I mention I don't

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I don't watch Isis videos anymore

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that'll get me a flag in the audio

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apparently and they're not telling us

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what the issues are unbelievable man man

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man and and unfortunately we're just

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stuck there's nothing we can do

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all right this is fade to black I am

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your host Jimmy Church tonight Mel

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fàbregas veritas on f2b and I'm gonna

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get out of here because when I get back

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we'll be joined by Mel

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now we're on the game changer network in

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kgr a the planets

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[Music]

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hi this is Rob Reiner from Apple and

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combats and we listen in the Jimmy

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Church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black

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I'm arrows Jimmy Church tonight very

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special guests Mel fàbregas is with this

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host of Veritas Veritas radio tomorrow

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night so our total eclipse special wrap

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up hooking up rattles in here and a few

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other special guests we're gonna post

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some pictures of the event that we were

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just at up at Mount Shasta and then

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Thursday night Ralph Ellis is going to

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be here live from Europe and we're gonna

602
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:07,500
be doing Adam and Eve and of course Jon

603
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:10,049
Rappoport will open up the show with his

604
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,750
no more fake newsroom live but tonight

605
00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:14,640
it's all about Mel very excited about

606
00:33:19,159 --> 00:33:17,070
tonight doesn't happen often where we

607
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:19,169
get to go host a host but we're gonna do

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00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:22,650
that tonight and since 2008 I have been

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00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:26,490
listening to Mel and Veritas he has

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00:33:33,409 --> 00:33:29,070
interviewed everybody I would like to

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00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:33,419
say that I have Mel has and he he does

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00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:36,390
cover you ethology and the paranormal

613
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,240
and conspiracies he does all of that but

614
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:42,000
mal has got the style that I have been

615
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:44,910
drawn to I want to be Mel and tonight I

616
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,880
want to find out exactly how he got his

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00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:50,100
start and what makes him click so we're

618
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,720
gonna do all of that he does have a

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00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:53,760
bachelor's degree in finance he's got a

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master's degree in international

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00:34:00,049 --> 00:33:57,570
business administration from the

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00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:00,059
University of Texas Tejas

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00:34:04,010 --> 00:34:01,710
Mel has appeared on the History

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00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:04,020
Channel's Brad Meltzer's decoded one of

625
00:34:08,899 --> 00:34:04,860
my favorite shows

626
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,909
he's been on all of the shows I gotta

627
00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:10,560
get him on coast to coast I wonder if

628
00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:12,600
Mel I gotta ask him about that maybe we

629
00:34:17,090 --> 00:34:14,190
should get Mel on coast maybe even this

630
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:17,100
weekend if he wants to stay up that late

631
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:20,970
but what Mel does and and I think his

632
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:24,240
journey is to do just that to bring us

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the truth

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00:34:31,810 --> 00:34:28,260
that's what Veritas means all of those

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00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:31,820
hidden and an obscure loss history

636
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:35,700
conspiracies subjects that go from all

637
00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:38,940
the way from humanity to to even health

638
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:41,190
issues so we're gonna do all of that

639
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:42,690
tonight with Mel and I would like to

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00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:43,980
welcome for the first time to fade to

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black

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the one and only Mel fàbregas mal good

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00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:48,330
evening

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00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,649
having a show in thanks to your

645
00:34:57,550 --> 00:34:54,240
wonderful audience for tuning in as well

646
00:35:02,450 --> 00:34:57,560
oh man just say Veritas for me once

647
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:02,460
Veritas yeah it smell all right man

648
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:05,430
welcome to the show and you've been an

649
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:09,710
inspiration for me for a while because

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00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:13,260
mal I study everybody you know I listen

651
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:15,600
to all of the great veterans of the past

652
00:35:20,350 --> 00:35:17,970
I'm talking about from the 50s going

653
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:20,360
back to Long John Neville you know and

654
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:22,950
and some of the other you know a Billy

655
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:25,320
good men out in Vegas in the 80s was

656
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,440
just amazing stuff and we had a couple

657
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:30,320
of guys here in LA anyway I just

658
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:33,210
listened to everybody and when you came

659
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:37,290
along you had a tone and an attitude

660
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:42,330
that was almost what's the word I want

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00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:45,480
to use a juvenile child like you know

662
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:47,610
you had a question you wondered right

663
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:51,870
and and that's I always appreciated your

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00:35:58,990 --> 00:35:54,090
take on things where you were going at

665
00:36:03,170 --> 00:35:59,000
it and you seemed to me to be unbroken

666
00:36:06,110 --> 00:36:03,180
right you were you weren't like all of

667
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:06,120
the others and you weren't trying to be

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00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:09,810
a personality and I want you to tell me

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00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:13,260
that I'm right am i right about that you

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00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:16,440
you did you pursue a broadcast career

671
00:36:21,350 --> 00:36:18,690
not at all you're 200%

672
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,360
absolutely correct I had no experience

673
00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:23,520
I've probably never Hitler held a

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00:36:29,090 --> 00:36:26,520
microphone in my life but it was a it's

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00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:29,100
a long story that I can discuss if you'd

676
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:31,230
like me to absolutely but no absolutely

677
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:33,630
I had no intention of becoming a

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00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:35,370
journalist of becoming an investigator

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but in my nature

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00:36:42,110 --> 00:36:39,960
he was innately in me that I always

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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:42,120
wanted to ask questions and it possible

682
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:46,530
me that in school in church family

683
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:49,470
friends if I ever asked questions that

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00:36:56,330 --> 00:36:52,170
did not fit their mold I was always

685
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,340
welcome with rolling eyes or a sarcastic

686
00:37:01,220 --> 00:36:58,560
comment or please don't go there

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00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:01,230
and I fell Shawn and ridiculed and I

688
00:37:04,789 --> 00:37:02,160
thought one day

689
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:04,799
maybe in the future something will

690
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,750
happen that would allow me to ask these

691
00:37:10,279 --> 00:37:08,400
questions but no you're absolutely right

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00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:10,289
I had no intention of becoming a

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00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:13,079
broadcaster I had no experience so this

694
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:15,990
happened just one night overnight it

695
00:37:19,309 --> 00:37:16,650
just happened

696
00:37:20,059 --> 00:37:19,319
now we're gonna do we're gonna do I want

697
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:20,069
to hear this

698
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:22,200
this this amazing epiphany because

699
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:25,650
that's exactly what it was but in the

700
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:27,690
excitement of bringing you on I forgot

701
00:37:32,059 --> 00:37:29,490
the first-time guests disclose

702
00:37:34,099 --> 00:37:32,069
disclaimer and it's already up in

703
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:34,109
Twitter Church what's going on and are

704
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:36,470
you freaking out you forgot the

705
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:39,990
disclaimer which is this Mel it's just

706
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:41,910
you and I sitting on my couch having a

707
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:43,770
conversation as friends where the

708
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:45,690
conversation starts it starts where it

709
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:47,010
ends it ends but we're gonna end his

710
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:49,319
friends you're ready to go absolutely

711
00:37:52,549 --> 00:37:51,240
all right now we got that out of the way

712
00:37:57,289 --> 00:37:52,559
next time you're on the show you don't

713
00:38:00,200 --> 00:37:57,299
get it but everybody has that epiphany

714
00:38:02,210 --> 00:38:00,210
don't they and you need to take it if

715
00:38:06,799 --> 00:38:02,220
you want to change your life you

716
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:06,809
recognize what that maybe most don't

717
00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:09,150
right because it also can be a difficult

718
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:12,390
part of the life's journey but you did

719
00:38:20,359 --> 00:38:16,470
not man you chose to to to listen to you

720
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,369
not follow your dreams to listen to your

721
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:21,839
dreams so tell us the story what

722
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,170
happened just dimension somebody who

723
00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:27,359
wants to do all of this but because of

724
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:29,430
the way you're brought up this society

725
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:32,940
the schooling education now is it

726
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:35,880
working for a fortune 100 company for 13

727
00:38:40,190 --> 00:38:38,400
years you do not talk about these

728
00:38:42,799 --> 00:38:40,200
subjects and the only reason

729
00:38:45,019 --> 00:38:42,809
well I'm able to do what I do now is

730
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:45,029
because I'm self-employed I mean right

731
00:38:49,309 --> 00:38:47,190
now I see so many people changing their

732
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:49,319
names and social media and I always

733
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:51,000
wonder why do you change your name and

734
00:38:55,789 --> 00:38:52,890
they're telling me well because my

735
00:38:58,339 --> 00:38:55,799
employer would have access to even some

736
00:39:00,049 --> 00:38:58,349
of the pictures can get people fired so

737
00:39:02,779 --> 00:39:00,059
there's this fear but let me just give

738
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:02,789
you a summary of what happened I grew up

739
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:04,740
in a small island in the Caribbean

740
00:39:09,859 --> 00:39:07,920
Puerto Rico and as many people know we

741
00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:09,869
are located in one of the Vernita

742
00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:13,670
triangle corners in the 1970s I remember

743
00:39:17,859 --> 00:39:15,900
hearing of this

744
00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:17,869
company that was filming a commercial

745
00:39:23,029 --> 00:39:21,390
and they were putting a camera at night

746
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,039
on top of a part of the tallest

747
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:25,200
buildings and they wanted to have one of

748
00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:27,000
those things where they rolled the

749
00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:28,950
entire night for like a ten-second

750
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:31,859
commercial and all of a sudden after the

751
00:39:37,309 --> 00:39:34,890
producers got the footage they found a

752
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:37,319
UFO and it put it in the news and you

753
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:39,690
can see this light coming from left to

754
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:42,690
right stop it in a dime and just boom

755
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:45,569
out and I just thought this is only five

756
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:48,569
minutes away from my home and so that's

757
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:50,970
what really got me interested now fast

758
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:53,910
forward fast forward to the 90s I moved

759
00:40:00,319 --> 00:39:57,710
from Puerto Rico to Florida to Miami and

760
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:00,329
bought a house and I remember had this

761
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:04,079
alarm and at night at 11 o'clock at

762
00:40:09,019 --> 00:40:07,289
night always the alarm would just go off

763
00:40:10,849 --> 00:40:09,029
almost as if there's no there was an

764
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:10,859
intruder so I would go running

765
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:12,930
downstairs and I would see that the

766
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:14,700
light was blinking as if it's something

767
00:40:19,309 --> 00:40:17,910
was happening in my bedroom so he kept

768
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,319
happening and I thought you know there

769
00:40:25,099 --> 00:40:21,680
must be something wrong so I

770
00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:25,109
disconnected I turned it off the next

771
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:28,619
day I hear a bang on the stairway

772
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:31,230
railing and I thought no this can be

773
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,630
possible 11 o'clock I woke up this sound

774
00:40:36,589 --> 00:40:35,760
I go running to the stairway railing and

775
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:36,599
I touched it

776
00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:39,569
that was vibrating and I thought am I

777
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,470
going crazy

778
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:43,440
well anyway I moved to Mexico I can't

779
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:44,430
please sent me there during the

780
00:40:49,970 --> 00:40:47,670
implementation of NAFTA and I moved to

781
00:40:53,089 --> 00:40:49,980
an apartment and not even two days later

782
00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:53,099
I wake up at 11 o'clock at night and the

783
00:40:58,099 --> 00:40:55,140
windows are open and the curtains are

784
00:41:01,819 --> 00:40:58,109
flapping there's Kerry and I thought

785
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:01,829
maybe I left that open I closed it the

786
00:41:07,099 --> 00:41:03,660
next day I came from work I went to

787
00:41:09,650 --> 00:41:07,109
sleep I closed it 11:00 p.m. the windows

788
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,660
open again right down at this point I

789
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,000
was very very disturbed by behind on

790
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:14,640
something is trying to communicate with

791
00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:17,789
me no doubts so I go to the office I'm

792
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:20,279
hiring that day and all of a sudden this

793
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:22,110
woman who

794
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:24,570
looked like offence but she looked like

795
00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:27,090
a witch she comes sits down interviews

796
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:30,360
with me and she says sir I'm sorry but

797
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:32,190
and I hire her on the spot

798
00:41:36,530 --> 00:41:34,650
I don't know why I usually take my time

799
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:36,540
to hired people usually two three

800
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:38,520
interviews but something there's a

801
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:40,680
connection with this lady on a hired her

802
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:43,530
and at the end she says sir you seem a

803
00:41:48,830 --> 00:41:46,440
little bit disturbed what's going on and

804
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:48,840
I'm thinking I just hired you in my mind

805
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:50,430
do you want to get fired for becoming so

806
00:41:55,070 --> 00:41:52,710
you know this is this is a personal

807
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:55,080
matter but she said may I have your

808
00:41:59,180 --> 00:41:58,530
pocket pen and I'll bring it back to you

809
00:42:01,280 --> 00:41:59,190
in the morning

810
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:01,290
and I thought well this is strange but

811
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,140
here we go the next morning she comes in

812
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:06,240
she starts telling me things about my

813
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:10,830
past that nobody knew but me and she

814
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:12,900
said someone is trying to communicate

815
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:14,940
with you and you're not letting that

816
00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:17,640
entity come through you need to meditate

817
00:42:24,380 --> 00:42:20,430
you need to practice yoga meditation and

818
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:24,390
so on so anyway after that happened the

819
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:27,180
11 o'clock thing stopped which I found

820
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,480
strange now fast-forward that to six

821
00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:33,750
nine months later I go to the office and

822
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:36,840
she comes to the office and she's you

823
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:39,330
know upset and I said to her why you're

824
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:41,400
upset and she said because you're

825
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:44,070
leaving without leaving why I'm here I

826
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:46,440
love it here I just there's a great

827
00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:48,870
opportunity I love Mexico it's culture

828
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:51,390
all the sights and she says well you're

829
00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:52,790
gonna get a phone call very soon

830
00:42:58,970 --> 00:42:56,520
today's later the peso the valuation

831
00:43:00,980 --> 00:42:58,980
happened in Mexico and my boss called me

832
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:00,990
from San Francisco and said we need to

833
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:04,290
get you out and I thought wow this lady

834
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:06,930
saw that coming Wow so I go back to the

835
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:09,780
office and she goes you got your phone

836
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:12,930
call teen in you and I'm like wow the

837
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:15,390
next day she comes in she tells me

838
00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:16,830
before you go I want to tell you this

839
00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:19,380
and she tells me you're gonna lose an

840
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:21,900
extra skin in the next you know six

841
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:25,080
months my father passed away a few

842
00:43:29,870 --> 00:43:27,030
months after that the first next-of-kin

843
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:29,880
she said you're gonna be going places

844
00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:31,890
gonna be going around the world you're

845
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,480
gonna marry somebody that looks like

846
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,280
this she described who's now my

847
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:37,920
to a tee I didn't meet my wife until

848
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:40,170
four or five years later you're gonna

849
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:43,680
wind up living in a very warm place but

850
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:45,510
it's very beautiful with a lot of nature

851
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:47,910
well I live in Tucson oh that's exactly

852
00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:50,550
the description but then she said but

853
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:54,030
most importantly you will be informing

854
00:43:58,720 --> 00:43:56,850
the world that will be your duty and I

855
00:44:01,220 --> 00:43:58,730
thought wait a second we all have to die

856
00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:01,230
now father pastor I made me some of us

857
00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:03,840
get married we you know may go to

858
00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:05,940
Bolivia in beautiful places all could be

859
00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:08,340
coincidence right but this thing about

860
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:11,070
informing the world right what is that

861
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:13,770
and she said in due time it will be

862
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:16,110
revealed to you now fast forward this is

863
00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:20,010
1993 fast forward to 2008 after the

864
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,470
economy crash in the United States well

865
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:24,960
okay so Mel let me jump in between 93

866
00:44:32,180 --> 00:44:28,230
and 2008 you're I don't want to say just

867
00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:32,190
uh but you are just you're you're not in

868
00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:34,140
the public you're in the business sector

869
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:37,500
you're a professional nothing to do with

870
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:39,480
informing the world you're just doing

871
00:44:45,020 --> 00:44:42,450
your thing right correct correct I left

872
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,030
the corporate world in 1998 and then

873
00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:47,040
right you know I've been in business and

874
00:44:52,850 --> 00:44:50,060
since since then but nothing paranormal

875
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:52,860
nothing out of the ordinary right so in

876
00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:56,040
2008 I had this dream I hardly have

877
00:45:01,850 --> 00:44:59,640
dreams but when I do they are very very

878
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:01,860
vivid I'll tell you one later especially

879
00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:04,110
with what's going on now with these

880
00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:07,350
ships that are banging into into US

881
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:09,390
military vessels that's that's another

882
00:45:13,550 --> 00:45:09,960
story

883
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:13,560
right but in December of 2008 I had this

884
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:15,960
dream that said take action take action

885
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:18,210
it was not even a vision it's just words

886
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,910
take action and I remember having

887
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:23,280
learned from the great Anthony Robbins

888
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:25,170
take action those words always with me

889
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,090
but that day applied

890
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:30,000
I hardly ever watch TV but I was drawn

891
00:45:36,350 --> 00:45:33,150
to the remote that day I'd turn on the

892
00:45:38,810 --> 00:45:36,360
TV and I see this gentleman with the

893
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:38,820
name of Milton Torres who was a former

894
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:43,200
US Air Force pilot in 1957 was stationed

895
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:46,110
in East Anglia England and he was

896
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:47,690
basically told

897
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:52,609
you know get up there and fire a missile

898
00:45:58,510 --> 00:45:55,910
on that UFO and I thought what this this

899
00:46:01,210 --> 00:45:58,520
man is saying that publicly apparently

900
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:01,220
the US Minister of Defense the

901
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:02,480
Department of at the Minister of Defense

902
00:46:07,780 --> 00:46:05,150
had they classified some of the you of

903
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:07,790
their four documents and he was finally

904
00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:11,030
after 50 years able to tell the story

905
00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:14,540
and you know CNN Fox News everybody was

906
00:46:19,150 --> 00:46:16,369
having him on but just for a few minutes

907
00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:19,160
and nobody was asking real questions and

908
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:22,430
I thought in my mind I have to speak

909
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:25,310
with his gentleman don't ask me how I

910
00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:27,890
was able to find his telephone number in

911
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:31,790
a matter of minutes so I called him and

912
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,710
before I called him I actually went to

913
00:46:37,059 --> 00:46:35,599
dinner with my wife and I said I'm gonna

914
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:37,069
call him but I have to say that I'm

915
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:40,130
coming from a radio platform I'm not you

916
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:42,410
know this is just me how can he believe

917
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,230
that I'm from a radio program what can a

918
00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:46,880
program do you think a name give me a

919
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:49,790
name and my wife uttered the words very

920
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,640
test and I said wow that encompasses

921
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:54,800
everything so I went ahead

922
00:46:59,380 --> 00:46:57,680
I called Milton Torres and I said may I

923
00:47:03,370 --> 00:46:59,390
interview you and he said absolutely

924
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,380
when tomorrow so I went to Best Buy a

925
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:06,079
bono microphone and I just very simple I

926
00:47:11,319 --> 00:47:08,780
just wanted to speak with him to record

927
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:11,329
that conversation as a souvenir for for

928
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:15,220
me selfishly so I recorded it I

929
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:17,569
immediately posted it in a few forums

930
00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:21,290
and in less than 24 hours I was getting

931
00:47:26,109 --> 00:47:23,480
hundreds and hundreds of emails from

932
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:26,119
people wait a minute where do you

933
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:27,890
broadcast from worst when's the next

934
00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:30,290
program blah blah blah and I thought wow

935
00:47:34,030 --> 00:47:31,790
people are believing that I really

936
00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:34,040
already a host and the next person comes

937
00:47:39,010 --> 00:47:37,880
to me was Steve Bassett and he said I'd

938
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:39,020
like to come on your show and I'm

939
00:47:43,329 --> 00:47:41,210
thinking does he even know that I don't

940
00:47:45,370 --> 00:47:43,339
have a show so the second one was with

941
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:45,380
Steven Bassett and we did an excellent

942
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:48,170
show F from there I was forced to

943
00:47:53,530 --> 00:47:50,660
continue and it raised you know it just

944
00:47:55,329 --> 00:47:53,540
became a snowball to what very test has

945
00:47:57,579 --> 00:47:55,339
become today and of course in the middle

946
00:47:59,859 --> 00:47:57,589
many things happened but that's the

947
00:48:01,390 --> 00:47:59,869
inception of how this wonderful journey

948
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,400
began

949
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:04,880
did did you did you cop a vibe from that

950
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:10,730
with Torres in that that maybe you had

951
00:48:17,140 --> 00:48:13,010
some talent that you didn't know about

952
00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:17,150
and that part of it that because when

953
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:18,830
you go to broadcast school and you study

954
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:21,170
journalism I think that because I did

955
00:48:27,010 --> 00:48:25,040
write you you try a little bit too hard

956
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:27,020
you're trying to be somebody that you

957
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:31,520
are not yes for you that did you know

958
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:32,930
you didn't have to go through that phase

959
00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:34,550
and you didn't have to go through the

960
00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:39,220
phase of of grades right taking tests

961
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,140
competing with other students trying to

962
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:44,720
get jobs in the broadcast world no you

963
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:47,570
jumped in because you were doing it for

964
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:49,670
the art of it and you wanted to have

965
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:52,130
your own gift right that's what you were

966
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,010
doing and you wanted to have this this

967
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:57,200
this conversation and have a preserved

968
00:49:01,180 --> 00:48:59,450
but going through that did you back off

969
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:01,190
on the end up and go hey you know what

970
00:49:07,630 --> 00:49:04,130
man I think now might have some talent

971
00:49:11,530 --> 00:49:07,640
here that that Mel didn't know about you

972
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:11,540
know I didn't go to school for this but

973
00:49:16,690 --> 00:49:14,960
the listeners did great me and I did for

974
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:16,700
some reason I wanted to sound very

975
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:19,370
polished I used to be a fan of Roger

976
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:23,450
Sterling I loved the way he spoke the

977
00:49:29,770 --> 00:49:26,350
Walter Cronkite that kind of old-school

978
00:49:34,030 --> 00:49:29,780
1950s 60s Americana you know what I'm

979
00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:34,040
talking about but the the listeners did

980
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:35,420
criticize me at the beginning because

981
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:38,930
they said relax you sounded like mr.

982
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:41,450
Roboto and I used to laugh about that

983
00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:43,790
and I look back and I listened to some

984
00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:45,800
of the old interviews and I think I

985
00:49:49,180 --> 00:49:48,500
cannot believe I used to talk like that

986
00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:49,190
uh-huh

987
00:49:54,670 --> 00:49:52,190
and then later as the years went by I

988
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:54,680
decided I just need to relax I just need

989
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:56,510
to be myself I need to just have a

990
00:50:01,630 --> 00:49:58,490
conversation you know I used to speak

991
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:01,640
very loud I need to modulate myself

992
00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:03,440
better and then you know listen to

993
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:04,700
people like you that make me sound like

994
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:05,390
a chipmunk

995
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:09,050
but you know it's a matter of doing what

996
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,170
you like and loving what you do once you

997
00:50:16,330 --> 00:50:14,720
find that niche in your life

998
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:16,340
there's nothing else I still have my

999
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:19,190
other businesses I have a family but

1000
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:22,460
when I do this this is just a vacation

1001
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:24,260
every time into it I wish I could do it

1002
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:25,910
more often I just don't have the time

1003
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:28,810
but it's just just a wonderful thing to

1004
00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:32,510
every every week open new doors the

1005
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:34,790
problem is I used to think that I knew a

1006
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:37,010
lot but every time and I think this

1007
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,930
happens to you and Arthur and our

1008
00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:40,400
colleagues when you interview someone

1009
00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:42,560
and they bring you new nuggets of wisdom

1010
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:46,190
you realize how much you don't know and

1011
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:49,970
much more you want to learn it's amazing

1012
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:53,390
how that happens because I did a life of

1013
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:58,250
research before a life I'm full on going

1014
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,599
back to when I was a kid I did

1015
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,240
everything that I could to soak up the

1016
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,359
paranormal and Edgar Cayce and and and

1017
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:07,760
von Daniken from the early 70s I read

1018
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:09,830
all that I saw all the doctor I did I

1019
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:13,040
did it all and I thought that I had a

1020
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:16,070
pretty solid footing and I realize now

1021
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:20,210
that I don't I read I I don't I need to

1022
00:51:26,260 --> 00:51:22,310
interview man I need to do that I need

1023
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:26,270
to just constantly be a sponge of what I

1024
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:30,170
learn every day I'm appreciative of but

1025
00:51:34,810 --> 00:51:32,810
it definitely causes me to step back and

1026
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:34,820
go I don't know nothing I don't I really

1027
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,430
don't there's so much to learn out there

1028
00:51:42,310 --> 00:51:39,680
every single day you'd flip over a rock

1029
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:42,320
mill you know better than anybody you do

1030
00:51:47,530 --> 00:51:44,690
it you're like well okay I I don't know

1031
00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:47,540
nothing that this world is a crazy crazy

1032
00:51:52,810 --> 00:51:50,990
place this this this universe and that's

1033
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:52,820
the best part of this job when you find

1034
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:55,280
your bliss like you have then you are

1035
00:51:59,980 --> 00:51:57,650
able to just keep your mind open keep it

1036
00:52:03,250 --> 00:51:59,990
open and keep soaking it in and that's

1037
00:52:08,050 --> 00:52:03,260
what you do on Veritas I've always been

1038
00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:08,060
a great admirer of that - you know you

1039
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,000
question everything you're skeptical in

1040
00:52:17,530 --> 00:52:14,480
in a healthy way but you just ask the

1041
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:17,540
right questions at the right time when

1042
00:52:22,810 --> 00:52:19,570
did you start to figure out that you

1043
00:52:24,820 --> 00:52:22,820
were getting your questions correct I

1044
00:52:27,010 --> 00:52:24,830
know you listen to the old stuff and you

1045
00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:27,020
were like that was just awful

1046
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:30,470
you know but you know but but when did

1047
00:52:35,860 --> 00:52:31,970
you start to feel like okay I've got my

1048
00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:35,870
style here I know now how to ask a

1049
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:38,630
question I would say probably after

1050
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,720
after the third season yeah this this

1051
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:44,480
now if you do it from one year it's a

1052
00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:46,370
practice if you do it for two years well

1053
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:48,380
you're going but if you're still

1054
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:50,930
standing after the third year st people

1055
00:52:54,670 --> 00:52:52,580
are still listening to us and remember

1056
00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:54,680
we don't have any commercials are the

1057
00:52:59,530 --> 00:52:57,260
only people that that supporters are our

1058
00:53:01,330 --> 00:52:59,540
subscribers and I wanted to keep it that

1059
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:01,340
way I don't want to be chasing sponsors

1060
00:53:05,110 --> 00:53:03,650
that may be telling me hey don't talk

1061
00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:05,120
about this and talk about that because

1062
00:53:09,250 --> 00:53:07,550
it did happen we did it on the second

1063
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:09,260
year we started people coming to us and

1064
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:12,170
said you know we want to be your sponsor

1065
00:53:16,690 --> 00:53:14,210
but you cannot go here and there and I

1066
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:16,700
thought there's no way in the world I

1067
00:53:22,330 --> 00:53:19,370
thought this is going to be the Consumer

1068
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:22,340
Reports of alternative media right it's

1069
00:53:26,770 --> 00:53:24,110
the I don't know if you were growing up

1070
00:53:29,710 --> 00:53:26,780
you were reading up Reader's Digest used

1071
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:29,720
to love reading Reader's Digest just

1072
00:53:36,460 --> 00:53:32,750
because it was so varied it included so

1073
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:36,470
many aspects of life from A to Z the

1074
00:53:41,830 --> 00:53:38,570
full spectrum you know when I started

1075
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:41,840
the program my motivation was UFOs I was

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00:53:47,890 --> 00:53:45,290
fascinated and I still AM but after a

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00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:47,900
year of doing just simply UFO shows I

1078
00:53:55,180 --> 00:53:51,290
thought there's more to this than that I

1079
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,190
mean the UFO shows brought me incredibly

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00:53:59,950 --> 00:53:57,440
why would this happen to the Federal

1081
00:54:02,440 --> 00:53:59,960
Reserve what does the Federal Reserve

1082
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:02,450
have to do with UFOs and from the

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00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:04,370
Federal Reserve it took me to an

1084
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:06,920
alternative health and when you look at

1085
00:54:11,350 --> 00:54:09,410
all these things they're all connected

1086
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:11,360
and then they took them into the

1087
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:13,850
mainstream media ah Polly and I'm

1088
00:54:19,420 --> 00:54:17,210
thinking perhaps the brainwashing that

1089
00:54:22,090 --> 00:54:19,430
people are experiencing is not just the

1090
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:22,100
education it's the media for example I

1091
00:54:24,940 --> 00:54:23,810
don't mean to sound condescending and it

1092
00:54:27,010 --> 00:54:24,950
needs to deviate from what we're

1093
00:54:29,380 --> 00:54:27,020
discussing but a bit if the mainstream

1094
00:54:31,660 --> 00:54:29,390
media said that you could watch the

1095
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:31,670
Eclipse through a magnifying glass

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00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:34,310
half the population would go blind I'm

1097
00:54:39,790 --> 00:54:37,550
very concerned about how many people

1098
00:54:42,130 --> 00:54:39,800
follow the mainstream media

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00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:42,140
almost a Dogma I don't know if this

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00:54:46,810 --> 00:54:44,090
happens that happens to you it does it's

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00:54:48,580 --> 00:54:46,820
100% what's going on and I have said

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00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:48,590
that when I started to make the

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00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:51,500
discovery on how everything is connected

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00:54:57,370 --> 00:54:54,650
I have said Mel you're gonna laugh I

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00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:57,380
have said I can connect the Great

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00:55:06,010 --> 00:55:01,520
Pyramid in Egypt to a Ford Pinto car

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00:55:12,210 --> 00:55:06,020
tire I can do it it's all and everything

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00:55:14,830 --> 00:55:12,220
in between of connecting UFOs to the Fed

1109
00:55:17,350 --> 00:55:14,840
you know that's actually easy right

1110
00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:17,360
that's that's child's play but it's

1111
00:55:23,590 --> 00:55:21,350
funny how everything is connected and

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00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:23,600
that's the joy of doing this show you do

1113
00:55:29,170 --> 00:55:25,910
the same thing when you have a guest

1114
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:29,180
that that appreciates that and you are

1115
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:31,570
able to take these left and right turns

1116
00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:34,310
and keep things connected because it

1117
00:55:40,750 --> 00:55:37,910
shows the audience just that it's all

1118
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:40,760
can it really really is and when you

1119
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:43,130
start to make that revelation that it's

1120
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:45,350
all connected when people say that you

1121
00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:47,390
need to give them examples but when

1122
00:55:51,550 --> 00:55:49,940
people say it I think a lot of the times

1123
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:51,560
they don't actually understand the

1124
00:55:56,740 --> 00:55:53,750
heaviness of the meaning of that word of

1125
00:56:00,040 --> 00:55:56,750
those kinds of words but the media our

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00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:00,050
education our money system our military

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00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:04,160
industrial complex the news today our

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:07,520
children are all connected to the lost

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00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:11,050
history of this world of previous

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00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:14,630
generations that are lost in time to the

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00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:17,150
et phenomena to life after death to

1132
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:19,970
consciousness two parallel worlds and to

1133
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:26,470
absolutely I know you have a break

1134
00:56:32,110 --> 00:56:27,680
coming up soon so I don't know if I

1135
00:56:35,110 --> 00:56:32,120
should stop or continue well okay I have

1136
00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:35,120
the question that I know you get it all

1137
00:56:41,290 --> 00:56:37,820
the time I get it all the time but you

1138
00:56:46,330 --> 00:56:41,300
can answer it quickly but who is your

1139
00:56:48,550 --> 00:56:46,340
favorite interview who is my favorite

1140
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,560
interview you know it's one of those

1141
00:56:53,650 --> 00:56:50,480
questions that I don't like to answer

1142
00:56:56,289 --> 00:56:53,660
just because I don't want to offend

1143
00:56:59,470 --> 00:56:56,299
any of our great guests I have plenty of

1144
00:57:02,829 --> 00:56:59,480
great interviews but I have to say the

1145
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:02,839
late great Jim Marsh there you go

1146
00:57:06,910 --> 00:57:04,670
the late great Jim Marrs I was

1147
00:57:09,099 --> 00:57:06,920
privileged to group some people say that

1148
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:09,109
there was a an interview conducted on

1149
00:57:14,529 --> 00:57:12,170
coast to coast the morning where he

1150
00:57:16,270 --> 00:57:14,539
passed away I haven't been able to find

1151
00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:16,280
it find it but some people are telling

1152
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:17,630
me that I was privileged to have an

1153
00:57:22,779 --> 00:57:20,569
interview last and during the time the

1154
00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:22,789
years that I knew Jim and I know he was

1155
00:57:28,299 --> 00:57:25,220
a dear friend of yours mm-hmm every time

1156
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:28,309
I spoke with Jim there was something new

1157
00:57:34,569 --> 00:57:31,910
and it was always like a kid in a candy

1158
00:57:36,490 --> 00:57:34,579
store every time that I was going to be

1159
00:57:39,460 --> 00:57:36,500
interviewing Jim I would devour his

1160
00:57:42,220 --> 00:57:39,470
books before the interview have 25 pages

1161
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:42,230
of notes and that's the type of

1162
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:44,450
interview that I really enjoyed because

1163
00:57:49,690 --> 00:57:47,569
I know that after it's done and it's

1164
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:49,700
gonna stay there in posterity people are

1165
00:57:56,740 --> 00:57:53,089
gonna love it next year next decade and

1166
00:57:58,900 --> 00:57:56,750
so on yeah yeah he he meant so much and

1167
00:58:01,900 --> 00:57:58,910
then over this past weekend we lost

1168
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:01,910
somebody bill Thompkins died over the

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00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:05,750
weekend and we were up doing the the the

1170
00:58:10,839 --> 00:58:07,609
conference up there with Corey and and

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00:58:12,670 --> 00:58:10,849
Jay Widener and and Michael Salah and

1172
00:58:15,250 --> 00:58:12,680
and yo bill was part of that you know a

1173
00:58:18,579 --> 00:58:15,260
circle of a team of researchers and Lars

1174
00:58:22,089 --> 00:58:18,589
yeah and and you know talk about taking

1175
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:22,099
the wind out of everybody's sales man

1176
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:24,049
but there you go

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00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:26,809
you know Jim Marrs he did it right he

1178
00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:31,220
did it right and he he lived life

1179
00:58:36,460 --> 00:58:34,520
exactly as he wanted to do it and he was

1180
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:36,470
able to influence so many but I'm right

1181
00:58:42,339 --> 00:58:39,470
with you right there Jim Marrs as is

1182
00:58:44,650 --> 00:58:42,349
probably every everyone that I did was

1183
00:58:46,329 --> 00:58:44,660
the best one and so thank you for

1184
00:58:48,609 --> 00:58:46,339
pointing that out Mel let's take a quick

1185
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:48,619
break our guest tonight Mel fàbregas

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00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:51,650
this is Veritas on f2b

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we'll be right back

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black our guest

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tonight metal fàbregas this is Veritas

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doesn't get any better than that you

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know now I wanted to ask you let's kind

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of go here let's let's let's start to

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have some fun

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is there any zone that you won't go into

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when it comes to bringing on a guest and

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01:03:06,730 --> 01:03:02,870
when it comes to a zone that you're

1265
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feeling funky about do you challenge

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01:03:13,060 --> 01:03:11,090
your guests that's a difficult question

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01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:13,070
just because I don't believe in

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01:03:17,620 --> 01:03:15,350
censorship believe in these free speech

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01:03:21,310 --> 01:03:17,630
I don't want anybody to tell me don't go

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01:03:22,570 --> 01:03:21,320
here don't go there there's an area that

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01:03:24,970 --> 01:03:22,580
makes me uncomfortable

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01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:24,980
to discuss not because I don't want to

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01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:30,050
discuss it just because of how evil it

1274
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:34,610
is and I'm talking about pizza gate mmm

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01:03:39,580 --> 01:03:37,310
I'm talking about child trafficking

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01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:39,590
right I discussed this many many years

1277
01:03:44,110 --> 01:03:42,290
ago in one show that I did with a great

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:44,120
journalist by the name of Nick Bryant

1279
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:45,530
mm-hmm you wrote a book about the

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01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:47,810
Franklin scandal yep yeah I was new to

1281
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:52,000
that and when I read that huge bucket I

1282
01:03:59,830 --> 01:03:55,910
how can I explain 9/11 first of all it

1283
01:04:01,450 --> 01:03:59,840
took my innocence away just for people

1284
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:01,460
who are listening to us I know there are

1285
01:04:08,110 --> 01:04:04,450
many people who woke up because of 9/11

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:08,120
before 9/11 anything the media said I

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:11,690
used to just eat it hook line and sinker

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:14,330
and then one of my brothers after 9/11

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01:04:18,820 --> 01:04:17,330
came to me and said by the way he worked

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01:04:20,830 --> 01:04:18,830
in the airline industry by the way and

1291
01:04:23,650 --> 01:04:20,840
he said by the way nothing crashed at

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01:04:26,410 --> 01:04:23,660
the Pentagon and here's proof and a way

1293
01:04:29,530 --> 01:04:26,420
he said that to me I thought how dare

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01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,540
you imply that our well-intentioned

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01:04:34,030 --> 01:04:32,000
government had anything to do with this

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:34,040
I didn't speak with to him for you for

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:36,650
four months but in silence I started

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01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:38,930
looking into a 9/11 and I thought my

1299
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:44,000
goodness we have been fooled so you know

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01:04:47,950 --> 01:04:46,250
fast forward to to this Frank

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01:04:49,810 --> 01:04:47,960
scanned Alisha which happened in the 80s

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01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:49,820
but I wasn't aware of until I read that

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01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:53,690
book I thought I cannot believe there

1304
01:04:59,830 --> 01:04:57,710
are so many deranged people within our

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01:05:02,170 --> 01:04:59,840
own government people that we elect

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01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:02,180
thinking these are the people I want my

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:05,390
kids to listen to and emulate and these

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01:05:10,330 --> 01:05:07,970
are the people that are behind all these

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01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:10,340
you know child trafficking and child

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01:05:15,580 --> 01:05:13,430
porn and all this this is an area that I

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01:05:18,490 --> 01:05:15,590
don't like to go and discuss too much

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01:05:20,830 --> 01:05:18,500
because I've realized from that

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:20,840
interview which became very popular but

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01:05:24,790 --> 01:05:22,970
at the same time people sometimes said

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01:05:28,540 --> 01:05:24,800
to me it's like roadkill

1316
01:05:30,010 --> 01:05:28,550
we know the corpse is right there but we

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01:05:32,170 --> 01:05:30,020
just want to just walk by and don't even

1318
01:05:33,370 --> 01:05:32,180
look at it that's right so that's an

1319
01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:33,380
area that I don't like to discuss

1320
01:05:41,770 --> 01:05:37,040
anything else goes if it matters to us

1321
01:05:44,980 --> 01:05:41,780
if we have to find out what are his -

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:44,990
story truly is and we need to just go

1323
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:46,970
back in and rewrite the post of what

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01:05:51,970 --> 01:05:49,490
they used to be and rediscovered through

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01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:51,980
origins that is actually my favorite

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this is what really motivates mates the

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:55,100
the catalyst

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every time I interview someone I want to

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find something about our past that

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01:06:05,350 --> 01:06:03,050
allows us to have a better future which

1331
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:05,360
seems to me that the powers that one to

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01:06:10,690 --> 01:06:08,210
be have been erasing our history so that

1333
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we don't unlock our full potential if

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you had to ask me Mel what's the biggest

1335
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:15,050
conspiracy I would tell you the biggest

1336
01:06:20,980 --> 01:06:17,720
conspiracy of all is the secret to our

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01:06:22,810 --> 01:06:20,990
own potential so in summary I go

1338
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:22,820
wherever the truth is it doesn't matter

1339
01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:26,090
how hard it is I would rather I would

1340
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:28,940
rather it be painful then live in a lie

1341
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:31,910
and be comfortable yes it is the case

1342
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:35,390
with most people the Franklin scandal

1343
01:06:39,940 --> 01:06:36,770
and we're not going to discuss that

1344
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:39,950
right now but I did the exact same thing

1345
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:44,860
I put that book down and because it was

1346
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:47,810
it was based on fact that's that's the

1347
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:49,490
other twisted thing here right this

1348
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:53,120
wasn't you know it was and presented it

1349
01:07:00,160 --> 01:06:56,690
in such a way that for most people

1350
01:07:02,260 --> 01:07:00,170
including myself the reality of

1351
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:02,270
this actually happening at the highest

1352
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:07,130
levels of government was a game-changer

1353
01:07:11,230 --> 01:07:09,170
for me and it frightened me at the same

1354
01:07:13,329 --> 01:07:11,240
time and you're absolutely right it's

1355
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:13,339
difficult to talk about it's even more

1356
01:07:18,250 --> 01:07:15,170
difficult just to think about and

1357
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:18,260
contemplate all right that but that book

1358
01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:21,200
was a game changer for me but I do the

1359
01:07:26,980 --> 01:07:23,750
same thing though I tend to leave that

1360
01:07:31,210 --> 01:07:26,990
alone I went through the Sandusky

1361
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:31,220
scandal and when that broke we were the

1362
01:07:37,089 --> 01:07:33,890
first if not one of the it was by

1363
01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:37,099
Seconds by the way to report on this and

1364
01:07:41,980 --> 01:07:38,990
to break that story we had done that on

1365
01:07:43,930 --> 01:07:41,990
a Friday and we went through Friday

1366
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:43,940
morning live on the air and that we went

1367
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:45,250
through everything

1368
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,559
over the weekend getting crazy email

1369
01:07:54,220 --> 01:07:51,200
crazy stuff that we broke in a couple of

1370
01:07:58,410 --> 01:07:54,230
networks had contacted us and you know

1371
01:08:02,319 --> 01:07:58,420
was this true by Monday morning

1372
01:08:04,059 --> 01:08:02,329
finally CNN broke the story the ESPN

1373
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:04,069
didn't touch it all weekend nobody

1374
01:08:12,809 --> 01:08:07,970
touched the story and it was rough well

1375
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:16,180
pedophilia specialist journalists thing

1376
01:08:24,099 --> 01:08:19,850
and I Mel I did a comedy sports show I

1377
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:24,109
did a comedy sports show and now all of

1378
01:08:29,530 --> 01:08:26,810
a sudden I am dealing with this every

1379
01:08:32,050 --> 01:08:29,540
single day and it was the headline news

1380
01:08:34,890 --> 01:08:32,060
I'm getting fed information and I

1381
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:34,900
couldn't do it anymore I did it for like

1382
01:08:40,209 --> 01:08:37,850
no man it was probably every day for six

1383
01:08:42,999 --> 01:08:40,219
weeks and one day I was like I'm done I

1384
01:08:45,459 --> 01:08:43,009
just cannot and and I just want someone

1385
01:08:47,410 --> 01:08:45,469
pizza gate started to break and some of

1386
01:08:50,499 --> 01:08:47,420
these other things and I realized that

1387
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:50,509
it's part of our reality but it's it it

1388
01:08:57,099 --> 01:08:53,690
it makes me ill right it physically

1389
01:08:59,610 --> 01:08:57,109
messes with me and and I can't I can't

1390
01:09:01,780 --> 01:08:59,620
do it I just I can't I'll let other

1391
01:09:04,329 --> 01:09:01,790
professionals out there deal with it and

1392
01:09:06,459 --> 01:09:04,339
they can deal with it very well I just

1393
01:09:09,309 --> 01:09:06,469
can't do it here I can't it just messes

1394
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:09,319
with my head so I do respect that take

1395
01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:12,290
but what about what about something like

1396
01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:13,900
flat or

1397
01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:18,190
okay what what about something like that

1398
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:20,440
how do you how do you have you had on

1399
01:09:25,379 --> 01:09:23,409
any of the Flat Earth guys I have in

1400
01:09:28,559 --> 01:09:25,389
fact you have no idea how many have

1401
01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:28,569
written to me this afternoon after you

1402
01:09:31,620 --> 01:09:30,039
posted that I was gonna be able to show

1403
01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:31,630
you know it said to me

1404
01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:34,389
you better find a way to bring the Flat

1405
01:09:43,589 --> 01:09:38,500
Earth with Jimmy so you asked I didn't

1406
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:43,599
want to bring it up I've had on mark

1407
01:09:49,919 --> 01:09:47,409
Sargent on the show yes I had and I told

1408
01:09:52,499 --> 01:09:49,929
mark going into the channels like dude

1409
01:09:55,529 --> 01:09:52,509
really I have an open mind about

1410
01:09:57,930 --> 01:09:55,539
everything I do let's you know bring it

1411
01:10:00,209 --> 01:09:57,940
let's talk about it I want to learn but

1412
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:00,219
dude the earth is round so we're gonna

1413
01:10:04,259 --> 01:10:02,530
have a hard show you're and he said you

1414
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:04,269
know what Jimmy let's just let's just

1415
01:10:08,609 --> 01:10:06,130
put it all on the table and let's have a

1416
01:10:10,259 --> 01:10:08,619
have a good old-fashioned fistfight and

1417
01:10:11,850 --> 01:10:10,269
however it comes out in the end let's

1418
01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:11,860
let's just have some fun with it

1419
01:10:19,709 --> 01:10:15,190
alright but and I did it that one time

1420
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:19,719
and but with you when something like

1421
01:10:27,959 --> 01:10:23,920
that comes up where we have the all of

1422
01:10:31,229 --> 01:10:27,969
the scientist that were persecuted and

1423
01:10:33,330 --> 01:10:31,239
jailed and put to death yelling that the

1424
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:33,340
earth was round and not the center of

1425
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,530
the known universe that everything that

1426
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:37,840
it went around the Sun and it was round

1427
01:10:43,919 --> 01:10:41,590
and and the oceans don't end you know

1428
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:43,929
you can keep sailing your boat it's not

1429
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,010
gonna because before that everybody

1430
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,840
believed that the earth was flat so we

1431
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:51,840
go through all of this to finally

1432
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:54,250
scientifically show everybody that it

1433
01:10:59,729 --> 01:10:57,250
was round and now we want to go back to

1434
01:11:02,459 --> 01:10:59,739
for all of those guys the men and women

1435
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:02,469
that died and you know we're jailed over

1436
01:11:08,399 --> 01:11:06,070
this I think that's really muddies some

1437
01:11:10,859 --> 01:11:08,409
very important names out there that

1438
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:10,869
that's my take I mean why go and do it

1439
01:11:14,669 --> 01:11:12,730
well let me just say first of all my

1440
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:14,679
hats off to you if he had somebody

1441
01:11:19,259 --> 01:11:17,230
anyone in the Flat Earth community and I

1442
01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:19,269
know mark Sargent is a very respective

1443
01:11:25,379 --> 01:11:22,150
researcher mm-hmm but to me it was

1444
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:25,389
different this is May of 2015 we had a

1445
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:27,550
forum at ER our website

1446
01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:29,860
and they started posting all of this and

1447
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:31,870
I started getting emails from people hey

1448
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:33,670
Mel what do you think about this and

1449
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:36,730
like anyone I would say please don't

1450
01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:39,850
bother me spam spam spam spam don't even

1451
01:11:45,570 --> 01:11:42,280
bother me with this this is ridiculous

1452
01:11:47,310 --> 01:11:45,580
I collect Globes I even have a Tiffany

1453
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:47,320
globe that they gave me when I left the

1454
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:49,930
corporate world that I cherish a lot so

1455
01:11:56,490 --> 01:11:52,360
the globe was very important to me in

1456
01:11:59,330 --> 01:11:56,500
May of 2015 I decided one person that I

1457
01:12:01,410 --> 01:11:59,340
know a very very successful Canadian

1458
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:01,420
entrepreneur he came to me and said look

1459
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:05,770
you know me I'm not a fool I am well

1460
01:12:11,340 --> 01:12:09,130
educated and I please ask you as a

1461
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:11,350
courtesy to me and my friendship towards

1462
01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:14,230
you please watch this video and it was

1463
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:17,560
an Eric Dubay video video and I watched

1464
01:12:21,330 --> 01:12:20,080
it from beginning to end and I just

1465
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:21,340
could not believe what I was watching

1466
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:24,220
and some of the things he was saying

1467
01:12:31,710 --> 01:12:27,220
made so much sense the fact that we have

1468
01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:31,720
never seen an image from NASA of our

1469
01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:34,420
planet Earth and every single one of

1470
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:36,670
them and I've checked all of them at

1471
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:39,910
least the ones that are public you know

1472
01:12:44,580 --> 01:12:42,610
year after year after year the earth

1473
01:12:46,410 --> 01:12:44,590
looks different the continents look

1474
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:46,420
different the u.s. looks bigger one time

1475
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:48,970
it goes on a diet the next one Africa

1476
01:12:51,570 --> 01:12:51,100
looks smaller and one that colors are

1477
01:12:53,370 --> 01:12:51,580
different

1478
01:12:55,710 --> 01:12:53,380
the Japanese pictures the Chinese the

1479
01:12:58,740 --> 01:12:55,720
Russians they're all different you would

1480
01:13:01,740 --> 01:12:58,750
think that the 21st century we would

1481
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:01,750
have a satellite that could turn and

1482
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:04,510
take a picture of our planet or even

1483
01:13:11,790 --> 01:13:08,290
have a camera on the moon that takes an

1484
01:13:14,340 --> 01:13:11,800
image of planet Earth 24/7 but we don't

1485
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,350
have a single image then I always tell

1486
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:16,000
this story and again I'm not saying that

1487
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:17,920
I'm a flat earther no I'm saying I'm

1488
01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:21,430
open to the possibilities and I have a

1489
01:13:25,770 --> 01:13:23,800
lot of questions and nobody seems to be

1490
01:13:28,290 --> 01:13:25,780
able to answer the only thing they say

1491
01:13:29,220 --> 01:13:28,300
is my gut mail cannot believe it I'm

1492
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,230
unsubscribing

1493
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:32,320
you are going up the deep end and I say

1494
01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:34,030
to that one my friend David wise said to

1495
01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:35,830
me today condemnation without

1496
01:13:40,540 --> 01:13:38,740
investigation is the admission of your

1497
01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:40,550
indoctrination

1498
01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:44,150
I have a beach home in Mexico and every

1499
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:45,380
time in the afternoon

1500
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:49,310
I see another side of Baja California

1501
01:13:55,930 --> 01:13:52,610
and I can see the mountains from top to

1502
01:13:58,810 --> 01:13:55,940
bottom and I was on a ship on a boat a

1503
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,820
few weeks ago and I asked the captain by

1504
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:00,080
the way you have the binoculars can you

1505
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:02,090
look can you tell me how many miles away

1506
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:05,510
are we from that mountain range over

1507
01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:07,370
there oh yes sir eighty-seven point

1508
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:10,100
eight miles so then I went home at night

1509
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:12,890
and I went to earth curvature comm and I

1510
01:14:18,460 --> 01:14:16,130
posted the distance the height of the

1511
01:14:23,710 --> 01:14:18,470
peak and then I could not believe it

1512
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:23,720
that peak should be 4,500 feet under the

1513
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:25,850
curvature so these are the things that

1514
01:14:30,030 --> 01:14:27,770
when I ask somebody they immediately

1515
01:14:33,130 --> 01:14:30,040
dismiss it saying this is just bunk

1516
01:14:36,610 --> 01:14:33,140
science has proven that otherwise you

1517
01:14:39,250 --> 01:14:36,620
know when you have a yeah a balloon that

1518
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:39,260
he goes up a hundred thousand feet and

1519
01:14:44,050 --> 01:14:42,080
you still see the horizon and eye level

1520
01:14:46,060 --> 01:14:44,060
you're flying a plane you you climb a

1521
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:46,070
mountain you always see the same thing

1522
01:14:50,350 --> 01:14:48,530
so I'm open I'm open to the

1523
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:50,360
possibilities I'm not saying one or the

1524
01:14:55,690 --> 01:14:52,550
other but I'm not convinced that we live

1525
01:14:59,440 --> 01:14:55,700
on a sphere either right right right

1526
01:15:01,180 --> 01:14:59,450
and and I respect all of that now and

1527
01:15:05,230 --> 01:15:01,190
listening to that now check this out

1528
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:05,240
this is one of the things that well I'm

1529
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:07,850
gonna give you three three things right

1530
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:09,440
now as quickly as I can

1531
01:15:15,370 --> 01:15:13,130
I used to live on this it was connected

1532
01:15:17,410 --> 01:15:15,380
but like an island down in Panama is

1533
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:17,420
called Fort Amador at the Canal Zone

1534
01:15:22,690 --> 01:15:20,690
right and it's a causeway it's connected

1535
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:22,700
it's built it's man-made it's built out

1536
01:15:26,730 --> 01:15:24,410
of the rocks that they took out of the

1537
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:26,740
Panama Canal they built this man-made

1538
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:30,080
base and it's called Fort Amador now off

1539
01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:33,110
in the distance is on the entrance on

1540
01:15:36,940 --> 01:15:35,270
the Pacific side to the Panama Canal so

1541
01:15:39,490 --> 01:15:36,950
outside of my house I could look

1542
01:15:41,070 --> 01:15:39,500
literally walk 50 yards I'm looking at

1543
01:15:45,610 --> 01:15:41,080
ships I'm looking at the Panama Canal

1544
01:15:49,810 --> 01:15:45,620
now off in the distance twelve miles

1545
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:49,820
away is an island called toboga and you

1546
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:52,280
could get in a ferry you know little

1547
01:15:57,770 --> 01:15:54,930
hotel out there and a nice little

1548
01:16:00,440 --> 01:15:57,780
each with a shark net and sharks down

1549
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:00,450
there do like to eat people so anyway

1550
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:01,650
there's a shark

1551
01:16:05,210 --> 01:16:03,690
nice-nice island go out there and drink

1552
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:05,220
and have a good time you take a ferry

1553
01:16:12,380 --> 01:16:08,450
out there take about 45 minutes now the

1554
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:12,390
Panama Canal all day long these ships

1555
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,070
are coming in I don't know they're

1556
01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:17,760
probably two hours apart you know a huge

1557
01:16:21,170 --> 01:16:19,380
you know freight liners you know

1558
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:21,180
freighters coming through oil whatever

1559
01:16:26,090 --> 01:16:24,270
Navy ships submarines and you see them

1560
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:26,100
and they're in a line and they're coming

1561
01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:29,130
through then I would say to myself where

1562
01:16:37,190 --> 01:16:33,630
are the boats right these huge massive

1563
01:16:40,190 --> 01:16:37,200
car carriers that are 20 30 stories

1564
01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:40,200
sticking out of above the way huge you

1565
01:16:45,230 --> 01:16:42,300
know hundreds and hundreds of feet long

1566
01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:45,240
big big massive boats and but I can't

1567
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:47,910
see them and they would just come from

1568
01:16:53,210 --> 01:16:50,130
over the horizon they'd be in a straight

1569
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:53,220
line and and slowly make that Wow okay

1570
01:16:59,360 --> 01:16:56,760
well one day I take my first trip to to

1571
01:17:01,490 --> 01:16:59,370
boga this island jump on the ferry and

1572
01:17:05,330 --> 01:17:01,500
we're going out and as I'm getting

1573
01:17:09,380 --> 01:17:05,340
closer to toboga I see the mast of these

1574
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:09,390
ships over the horizon and as we get

1575
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,210
closer and closer and closer I would sit

1576
01:17:16,580 --> 01:17:14,880
and then as we got to two boga I saw

1577
01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:16,590
because of the curvature of the earth

1578
01:17:22,850 --> 01:17:18,150
what's on the other side of the horizon

1579
01:17:24,650 --> 01:17:22,860
was this parking lot of ships there was

1580
01:17:27,770 --> 01:17:24,660
a hundred of them a hundred of these

1581
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:27,780
freighters that I never saw for my house

1582
01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:31,530
but as I went out to to boga there they

1583
01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:33,960
were I was like oh right you know right

1584
01:17:38,510 --> 01:17:36,870
over the horizon there was this world

1585
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,520
out there that I never knew and it was

1586
01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:40,800
when I say a parking lot of freighters

1587
01:17:45,950 --> 01:17:41,940
you need to picture this

1588
01:17:49,580 --> 01:17:45,960
it's my tens of miles wide tens of miles

1589
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:49,590
deep with a hundred of super freighters

1590
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:52,770
parked there now explain that if you

1591
01:17:57,140 --> 01:17:54,300
want to say the earth is flat I'm

1592
01:18:01,790 --> 01:17:57,150
telling you my eyeballs my experience

1593
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:01,800
myself that happens and so if it was

1594
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,810
flat I would have seen all of these

1595
01:18:08,290 --> 01:18:06,000
ships from my house which I never did

1596
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:08,300
and and so so

1597
01:18:13,330 --> 01:18:10,489
climb up to the top of the island at

1598
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,340
toboga I looked down and I'm looking at

1599
01:18:17,470 --> 01:18:15,440
these ships from above very high peak

1600
01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:17,480
and I'm looking down I'm looking at my

1601
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:19,400
house and I'm looking at this pile of

1602
01:18:23,290 --> 01:18:20,810
ships over here and I'm like wow that

1603
01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:23,300
was out there this whole time and I

1604
01:18:27,610 --> 01:18:25,580
never knew it why because of the

1605
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:27,620
curvature of the earth now this is the

1606
01:18:33,970 --> 01:18:30,710
second point I want to bring up all of

1607
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:33,980
the flat earthers want to say of part of

1608
01:18:40,090 --> 01:18:36,730
their evidence is you know the curve of

1609
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:40,100
airplane windows the curve of your eye

1610
01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:43,010
the curve their fissure and everywhere

1611
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:46,310
is making it look like the horizon is

1612
01:18:50,170 --> 01:18:48,110
not flat that it's curved and that the

1613
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:50,180
earth is curved and and so forth and

1614
01:18:54,850 --> 01:18:52,730
that that is part of the mass deception

1615
01:18:56,830 --> 01:18:54,860
out there that you are looking through

1616
01:19:00,100 --> 01:18:56,840
curves all the time to give everything

1617
01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:00,110
this curved look ok great so if that is

1618
01:19:08,530 --> 01:19:04,460
the case Mel as far as I know your head

1619
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:08,540
is round you've got a nice round head

1620
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:09,770
I'm looking at your picture right here

1621
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:12,650
you've got a nice round head and so what

1622
01:19:19,060 --> 01:19:16,010
you're telling me is that if you Mel or

1623
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:19,070
Hemi flat earther would hold a

1624
01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:22,340
basketball next to your head basketballs

1625
01:19:27,459 --> 01:19:24,710
around your head is around and you went

1626
01:19:29,290 --> 01:19:27,469
15 miles away and I'm looking at you

1627
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:29,300
through a set of binoculars where these

1628
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:31,310
buildings now are standing straight

1629
01:19:35,860 --> 01:19:32,810
these should be curved because there are

1630
01:19:39,250 --> 01:19:35,870
12 miles away 20 miles away well then

1631
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,260
your head actually if I'm looking at it

1632
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:41,440
through a telescope should be now

1633
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:45,050
inverted and the basketball is now no

1634
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:47,690
longer round is that what you're telling

1635
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:52,010
me it's either/or it's either/or it's

1636
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:56,000
not both and I I'm here to tell you Mel

1637
01:20:01,870 --> 01:19:58,400
your head is round and it's gonna be

1638
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:01,880
round from 20 miles away just like it is

1639
01:20:07,090 --> 01:20:04,910
when you're standing next to me it's not

1640
01:20:08,770 --> 01:20:07,100
going to be distorted with binoculars

1641
01:20:10,690 --> 01:20:08,780
it's not going to be distorted with the

1642
01:20:14,190 --> 01:20:10,700
telescope it's not going to be distorted

1643
01:20:17,050 --> 01:20:14,200
with the window of an airplane cabin

1644
01:20:20,740 --> 01:20:17,060
it's just just because we have a

1645
01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:20,750
basketball court that's flat doesn't

1646
01:20:25,690 --> 01:20:22,070
mean that we can't believe Paul

1647
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:25,700
or a pool table that has balls but I

1648
01:20:30,580 --> 01:20:27,920
have the same thing that happened with

1649
01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:30,590
you I used to see ships and you'd see

1650
01:20:35,290 --> 01:20:32,180
the mast and it would just disappear

1651
01:20:37,930 --> 01:20:35,300
over the horizon but after I saw all

1652
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:37,940
these videos coming out I got my camera

1653
01:20:42,580 --> 01:20:40,370
with that very powerful zoom and I

1654
01:20:43,900 --> 01:20:42,590
started looking and I would even have my

1655
01:20:46,210 --> 01:20:43,910
wife next to me and by the way she

1656
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,220
thinks I'm crazy for me even bringing

1657
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:48,560
the flutter up whenever we're in Mexico

1658
01:20:52,330 --> 01:20:50,690
I show her like don't give me that now

1659
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:52,340
please don't embarrass me in front of

1660
01:20:58,690 --> 01:20:55,550
our friends don't even say it so I I put

1661
01:21:02,350 --> 01:20:58,700
my camera and I assume it what was there

1662
01:21:04,570 --> 01:21:02,360
five minutes ago it's back I can't see

1663
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:04,580
with my own eyes but I could just look

1664
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:06,320
at the horizon and there are plenty of

1665
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:08,210
fishing boats there at any given time

1666
01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:11,570
that you cannot see but when i zoom I

1667
01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:14,300
can see all these boats appear on my

1668
01:21:21,190 --> 01:21:17,390
camera how do you explain that ya know

1669
01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:21,200
it's fascinating and and I am sure that

1670
01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:23,600
there are all kinds of things that come

1671
01:21:30,730 --> 01:21:26,950
into play here of atmosphere heat

1672
01:21:33,610 --> 01:21:30,740
gravity sunlight all of that stuff will

1673
01:21:37,450 --> 01:21:33,620
create an optical illusion that is

1674
01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:37,460
amplified through optics I am sure that

1675
01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:41,990
I'm yeah and I took look we all love a

1676
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:44,780
good conspiracy we all do it would be

1677
01:21:49,630 --> 01:21:48,560
great if something like this was was

1678
01:21:52,690 --> 01:21:49,640
real

1679
01:21:55,390 --> 01:21:52,700
but it's not but okay so I'll say this I

1680
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:55,400
don't say this this is what is really

1681
01:22:00,430 --> 01:21:58,010
fascinating I think this is what I

1682
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:00,440
really think just like yourself or any

1683
01:22:05,170 --> 01:22:01,730
flat earth or out there

1684
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:05,180
they like a good debate okay it's like

1685
01:22:09,490 --> 01:22:06,710
being on the debate team okay you're

1686
01:22:11,380 --> 01:22:09,500
gonna do this and you are gonna argue

1687
01:22:13,150 --> 01:22:11,390
this point whether you believe that or

1688
01:22:15,070 --> 01:22:13,160
not let's have a good debate and let's

1689
01:22:18,220 --> 01:22:15,080
practice on it I think that's basically

1690
01:22:20,410 --> 01:22:18,230
it all the flat earthers out there the

1691
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:20,420
the guys that are the you know posting

1692
01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:22,850
these videos and have all these facts

1693
01:22:27,820 --> 01:22:25,700
they know the earth is round they're

1694
01:22:29,650 --> 01:22:27,830
just having fun digging up the

1695
01:22:32,530 --> 01:22:29,660
possibility and presenting these facts

1696
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:32,540
and getting the argument going and that

1697
01:22:35,940 --> 01:22:34,250
I would not be so sure I wouldn't be so

1698
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:35,950
sure a ting in fact

1699
01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:39,050
medea bout both sides the the ball

1700
01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:40,940
earthers and the flat earthers is

1701
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:43,340
sometimes their debate becomes so heated

1702
01:22:48,460 --> 01:22:45,650
that they had this ad hominem attacks

1703
01:22:50,350 --> 01:22:48,470
all the time I would love you and I are

1704
01:22:53,890 --> 01:22:50,360
talking I'm saying that I'm open-minded

1705
01:22:57,340 --> 01:22:53,900
I am open to the possibilities if I can

1706
01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:57,350
confirm by scientists scientifically

1707
01:23:02,290 --> 01:22:59,210
NASA provide me more evidence

1708
01:23:04,210 --> 01:23:02,300
I saw a an amateur rocket last year that

1709
01:23:06,970 --> 01:23:04,220
went up a hundred thousand you know feet

1710
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:06,980
and all of a sudden in the morning you

1711
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:09,710
could see the moon and I plotted the

1712
01:23:15,460 --> 01:23:12,650
time and at that time when the moon was

1713
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:15,470
there it was not supposed to be visible

1714
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:18,290
it was supposed to be over Australia so

1715
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:20,930
when I see these things I ask questions

1716
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,840
but I do it in a very very professional

1717
01:23:28,090 --> 01:23:25,520
manner I don't mean to attack anybody

1718
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,100
mm-hmm you know people say ridicule you

1719
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:30,560
for even asking that's the problem and

1720
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:32,570
this is why I done discussed the subject

1721
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:34,310
that much because people get offended

1722
01:23:38,530 --> 01:23:37,010
they are so you know I don't mean to be

1723
01:23:41,050 --> 01:23:38,540
condescending but we are so brainwashed

1724
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:41,060
not only on unordinary on the earth or

1725
01:23:45,250 --> 01:23:42,800
Flat Earth but there are so many other

1726
01:23:47,050 --> 01:23:45,260
topics now there's no cure for cancer

1727
01:23:48,910 --> 01:23:47,060
once you have cancer you're done once

1728
01:23:51,820 --> 01:23:48,920
you have this disease you're done and

1729
01:23:53,740 --> 01:23:51,830
people just go to the doctors they don't

1730
01:23:56,650 --> 01:23:53,750
question and they don't know that there

1731
01:23:58,300 --> 01:23:56,660
are solutions to those answers and by

1732
01:24:00,250 --> 01:23:58,310
the way I'm gonna say publicly here in

1733
01:24:03,220 --> 01:24:00,260
case people wonder why I had to cancel

1734
01:24:05,260 --> 01:24:03,230
my other health show it's because of

1735
01:24:06,940 --> 01:24:05,270
this when you get phone calls in the

1736
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:06,950
middle of the night with a morphed voice

1737
01:24:12,610 --> 01:24:09,920
that says don't do it anymore right or

1738
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:12,620
don't go here don't go there you know

1739
01:24:16,060 --> 01:24:14,090
maybe that's something that has happened

1740
01:24:18,460 --> 01:24:16,070
to you but you have to be stupid

1741
01:24:20,110 --> 01:24:18,470
sometimes when you ask me are there

1742
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,120
certain things you don't talk about and

1743
01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:23,120
the answer is sometimes yes because I

1744
01:24:28,570 --> 01:24:25,820
want to be able to be as old as possible

1745
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:28,580
so that when I'm old and dying I want to

1746
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:29,840
be able to see that Jiggs feel possible

1747
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:32,090
of my wall almost complete not to

1748
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:33,770
mention I want to be here for my

1749
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:35,090
daughter you want to be here for your

1750
01:24:39,550 --> 01:24:37,450
kids you don't want to be so stupid to

1751
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:39,560
completely confront the powers that be

1752
01:24:45,370 --> 01:24:42,770
to a point that they just subvert you or

1753
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:45,380
destroy you well in the other and that's

1754
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:48,560
a really good way to look at it there I

1755
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:51,650
will never censor I I will never be told

1756
01:24:57,690 --> 01:24:54,170
what to do for sure right that that is

1757
01:25:02,200 --> 01:24:57,700
never gonna happen but there are certain

1758
01:25:03,820 --> 01:25:02,210
zones that I don't go into for for my

1759
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:03,830
own ethical reasons and they're not

1760
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:06,410
selfish reasons there it's a morality

1761
01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:09,440
issue and and an ethical issue but

1762
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:11,150
that's it but as far as censorship goes

1763
01:25:16,270 --> 01:25:13,010
I'm so with you nobody's ever gonna

1764
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:16,280
dictate to me what to do before we leave

1765
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:20,480
here for this next break one last thing

1766
01:25:28,690 --> 01:25:24,560
on the flat earthers this is where I do

1767
01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:28,700
have a very very very very very strong

1768
01:25:36,730 --> 01:25:31,670
belief in issue with if the earth was

1769
01:25:39,220 --> 01:25:36,740
flat first off what would it matter does

1770
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,230
it change life does it change anything

1771
01:25:43,780 --> 01:25:41,360
about what you and I are doing or

1772
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:43,790
anybody else it does not doesn't change

1773
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:46,730
a thing that's point number one point

1774
01:25:50,890 --> 01:25:49,250
number two yeah taking over in the other

1775
01:25:52,780 --> 01:25:50,900
segment but to me it does matter and

1776
01:25:55,810 --> 01:25:52,790
I'll tell you why okay okay we can do

1777
01:26:01,180 --> 01:25:55,820
that now and but the other part is that

1778
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:01,190
means that just about every pilot every

1779
01:26:04,780 --> 01:26:03,290
police officer every fireman every

1780
01:26:07,090 --> 01:26:04,790
professional every teacher every

1781
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:07,100
educator every publisher every

1782
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:11,360
politician scientist religious leader

1783
01:26:20,230 --> 01:26:15,770
world leader on the planet is in on it

1784
01:26:21,700 --> 01:26:20,240
and that I die I can't buy into I can't

1785
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:21,710
buy into it

1786
01:26:27,730 --> 01:26:24,800
that's we're talking about not a

1787
01:26:34,810 --> 01:26:27,740
conspiracy with NASA but a conspiracy

1788
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:34,820
with everybody but Mel everybody but me

1789
01:26:38,500 --> 01:26:36,320
is in on it

1790
01:26:41,230 --> 01:26:38,510
and that's that's a little bit tough to

1791
01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:41,240
digest so that that's that's that's

1792
01:26:45,190 --> 01:26:43,430
where I kind of I feel a little bit

1793
01:26:47,230 --> 01:26:45,200
comfortable in my position here I think

1794
01:26:50,410 --> 01:26:47,240
it's round I'm feeling pretty good about

1795
01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:50,420
that Mel I have an answer you want it

1796
01:26:54,970 --> 01:26:50,780
now

1797
01:26:57,250 --> 01:26:54,980
yeah go well basically when you have a a

1798
01:26:59,650 --> 01:26:57,260
if you have hamsters if you've ever had

1799
01:27:01,959 --> 01:26:59,660
mice the first thing they do when you

1800
01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:01,969
put them in their little glass bowl

1801
01:27:06,549 --> 01:27:03,920
the first thing they do is they look for

1802
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:06,559
an exit if they don't have an exit

1803
01:27:10,569 --> 01:27:09,170
they just okay we're done we have an X

1804
01:27:12,819 --> 01:27:10,579
we don't have an exit and they start

1805
01:27:14,770 --> 01:27:12,829
putting these little toys for them to

1806
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:14,780
play and the wheels and that's how they

1807
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:16,880
spend their life because they know or

1808
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:19,280
they think there's not an exit but what

1809
01:27:24,339 --> 01:27:21,170
if it just entertained this for a moment

1810
01:27:26,379 --> 01:27:24,349
what if the flood earth is too real and

1811
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:26,389
we are surrounded instead of the South

1812
01:27:31,899 --> 01:27:29,300
being just going down - and - to

1813
01:27:32,830 --> 01:27:31,909
Antarctica it's actually surrounding a

1814
01:27:38,890 --> 01:27:32,840
ring of ice

1815
01:27:42,430 --> 01:27:38,900
are other let's call them puddles like

1816
01:27:45,370 --> 01:27:42,440
Earth with civilizations like us perhaps

1817
01:27:47,979 --> 01:27:45,380
more advanced perhaps less advanced if

1818
01:27:49,060 --> 01:27:47,989
they're it if that is possible and right

1819
01:27:51,370 --> 01:27:49,070
now there's something going on

1820
01:27:53,950 --> 01:27:51,380
Antarctica otherwise what would so many

1821
01:27:56,379 --> 01:27:53,960
high-ranking members of society will be

1822
01:27:58,689 --> 01:27:56,389
going there but if it's a ring around us

1823
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,699
and there are worlds beyond it wouldn't

1824
01:28:03,580 --> 01:28:00,800
that matter to you to be able to find

1825
01:28:05,890 --> 01:28:03,590
what other civilizations of humans if

1826
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:05,900
they're human or perhaps what we call

1827
01:28:11,649 --> 01:28:09,050
extraterrestrials could be beings from

1828
01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:11,659
those ponds that come as tourists to

1829
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:14,150
visit us here those are things to ponder

1830
01:28:19,180 --> 01:28:16,610
so yes if that is a possibility

1831
01:28:21,759 --> 01:28:19,190
why not seek the truth yeah absolutely

1832
01:28:24,729 --> 01:28:21,769
and I do believe there is something

1833
01:28:28,299 --> 01:28:24,739
going on in and in Antarctica but the

1834
01:28:30,969 --> 01:28:28,309
southern variety but I do I really think

1835
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:30,979
that that they don't want us to know

1836
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:33,650
what's going on down there and you know

1837
01:28:37,330 --> 01:28:35,690
what when we come back we'll continue to

1838
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:37,340
address this because when it comes to

1839
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,489
dogma and the education system we are

1840
01:28:46,359 --> 01:28:43,280
definitely living the big lie our guest

1841
01:28:47,890 --> 01:28:46,369
tonight Mel fàbregas this is Veritas on

1842
01:28:51,150 --> 01:28:47,900
fade to black I'm yours Jimmy Church

1843
01:28:58,500 --> 01:28:54,260
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1844
01:29:00,570 --> 01:28:58,510
you're listening to phantom black always

1845
01:29:03,390 --> 01:29:00,580
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1847
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with Jimmy Church on the game change in

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black our

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guest tonight Mel fàbregas veritas on

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fade to black been waiting for this

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great to hear it's voice you see that

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the thing is it is really you know Mel

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you got that you got the pipes man

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everybody knows who you are from miles

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away

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it's really you now so what you're

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saying is you're open to the idea that

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the earth is round I'm open to the idea

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that the earth is flat round spherical

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whatever it is saying that I'm not

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convinced with what NASA has provided us

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even we can discuss the Apollo mission

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if you'd like but I have doubts about

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that too but then again I talk to other

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people I talk to you know the delayed

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Edgar Mitchell I talked to somebody

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who's gonna come on the show whose

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01:33:58,280 --> 01:33:55,800
father allegedly worked at area 51 and

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now that the father is gone he's able to

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discuss certain things he's telling me

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01:34:05,020 --> 01:34:02,489
that we did go to the moon so I'm open I

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move with the evidence you have to and

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that we're gonna go to this next subject

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again it's all connected which is this

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we have been told our entire life every

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book every educational history system in

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01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:23,400
the world set has told us and the focus

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01:34:29,209 --> 01:34:25,679
has been on ancient Egypt but but

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Mesopotamia Sumer you know 3,000 BC the

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wheel fire mathematics agriculture

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religion science engineering all

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happened you know 3,000 BC and that

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01:34:43,850 --> 01:34:41,190
before that you know man was running

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01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:43,860
around foraging for seeds right and then

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01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:47,010
gobekli tepe gets discovered and which

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01:34:54,530 --> 01:34:48,960
simply wasn't supposed to exist and

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certainly not 7,000 years prior to 3,000

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BC but it is still generally speaking

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01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:00,870
ignored history books are being

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rewritten right now and and nobody wants

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01:35:09,290 --> 01:35:06,030
to try to figure out what's going on

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01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:09,300
gobekli tepe should be the headline

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story on all the mainstream media for

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01:35:17,419 --> 01:35:15,960
since 1995 1996 it is not and part of

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that is because it's going to have to

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re-read

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right all of that dogma that we have

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been spoon-fed and that is an example of

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part of the big lie don't you think well

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absolutely

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it I mentioned to you that it lived in

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Mexico and this is the first time that

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it when it really hit me I was in the

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middle of downtown next to the cathedral

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and I see these these you know white

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01:35:47,090 --> 01:35:44,220
blankets covering an area and it said do

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not enter this white tarps and of course

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01:35:51,410 --> 01:35:49,440
inquisitive me I decided to just you

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01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:51,420
know beak in and what's going on here

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01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:53,310
all of a sudden I see a bunch of people

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01:35:58,130 --> 01:35:55,290
with little brushes you know looking and

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01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:58,140
on the floor and I finally was escorted

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01:36:01,610 --> 01:35:59,520
out but I asked can you please tell me

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01:36:03,650 --> 01:36:01,620
what's going on here well you know we

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01:36:06,410 --> 01:36:03,660
found that under the Cathedral

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01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:06,420
there was a Mayan temple and then I

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01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:08,370
start looking at other churches around

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Latin America and the same thing

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happened in 99.9 percent of the time

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when they built a cathedral or a big

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01:36:20,990 --> 01:36:18,660
church they were erasing the previous

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01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:21,000
history they didn't want the people in

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the quote-unquote near world to be

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looking at what those Mayans the Aztecs

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the Incas did in the past

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and the same thing happens with us here

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you mentioned gobekli tepe

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01:36:36,110 --> 01:36:33,840
same thing why is that not in the

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01:36:37,790 --> 01:36:36,120
history books why is it that there's an

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01:36:40,010 --> 01:36:37,800
Jay Wagner and I talk about this all the

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time why is there and Graham Hancock

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by the way sent prayers to him very

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important would you look at this gap of

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01:36:50,810 --> 01:36:48,000
information almost as if there's a

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there's a cataclysm and before that we

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01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:52,410
have the pyramids we have a lot of these

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01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:54,810
all of a sudden that came around the

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01:37:01,370 --> 01:36:58,410
world Baalbek in Lebanon pyramids and in

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01:37:03,530 --> 01:37:01,380
Southeast Asia all these almost as if

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01:37:06,170 --> 01:37:03,540
they were in contact with one another

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01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:06,180
because the architecture is similar

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01:37:10,730 --> 01:37:08,910
either they were able to extract the

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01:37:13,850 --> 01:37:10,740
knowledge from my skull of the Akashic

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01:37:16,850 --> 01:37:13,860
record or the ether or perhaps they

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01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:16,860
actually were the same civilization what

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01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:19,050
we call Atlantis or Lemuria or whatever

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01:37:24,620 --> 01:37:22,020
but I think that our history has been

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01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:24,630
completely completely hijacked from us

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01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:27,690
and we have more power and advanced

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01:37:31,900 --> 01:37:30,330
technology during that time now we could

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01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:31,910
possibly imagine

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01:37:35,890 --> 01:37:35,330
thousands of years later now but what do

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01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:35,900
we call them

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oh those soulless savages they just

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01:37:41,740 --> 01:37:39,800
didn't know what they were doing well if

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01:37:44,380 --> 01:37:41,750
that's the case then please tell me why

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01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:44,390
can't we replicate any of these

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01:37:50,740 --> 01:37:47,510
megaliths around the world end of story

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01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:50,750
that's it end of story and so let me ask

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01:37:55,870 --> 01:37:52,610
you about that when you when one starts

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01:37:59,890 --> 01:37:55,880
to make these revelations in your in

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01:38:02,200 --> 01:37:59,900
your brain about things like geesa geesa

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01:38:04,030 --> 01:38:02,210
is a great example because it's it's the

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01:38:06,820 --> 01:38:04,040
most famous number one one of the most

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01:38:10,090 --> 01:38:06,830
studied but it's also very obvious and

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01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:10,100
so we have wondered about it growing up

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01:38:15,010 --> 01:38:12,050
so it's an easy target so let's just

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01:38:20,350 --> 01:38:15,020
stay with that for a second if for you

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01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:20,360
you had your own investigation and

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01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:21,890
research as a child and everything with

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01:38:27,550 --> 01:38:24,650
Kisa and Egypt and King Tut you know and

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01:38:29,950 --> 01:38:27,560
and and so you're told one thing you see

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01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:29,960
it in movies and books and then as you

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01:38:34,930 --> 01:38:32,930
start to interview those out there the

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01:38:39,190 --> 01:38:34,940
Graham Hancock's and the balls which

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01:38:41,710 --> 01:38:39,200
we've all art to discover thing when did

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01:38:45,220 --> 01:38:41,720
you start to realize I mean because it's

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01:38:48,730 --> 01:38:45,230
a big it's a big paradigm shift when did

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01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:48,740
you start to realize that Giza is not

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01:38:53,370 --> 01:38:50,810
what we have been told and that that is

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01:38:55,870 --> 01:38:53,380
the case then it's all a bunch of BS

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01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:55,880
well it's everybody has a different

2046
01:39:00,880 --> 01:38:58,250
opinion some people say that it was a

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01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:00,890
power plant some were saying that it was

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01:39:08,050 --> 01:39:03,410
something else some were saying that the

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01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:08,060
way it was it had a gold the the what he

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01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:09,530
called the pinnacle of the pyramid the

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01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:13,280
capstone and they was used so that the

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01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:17,570
soul of the Pharaoh would try to be

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01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:20,930
transferred to another child and that's

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01:39:25,660 --> 01:39:23,420
why we would see the Pharaoh dine at

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01:39:27,550 --> 01:39:25,670
such an early age these are theories

2056
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:27,560
presented by other people but you start

2057
01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:29,360
thinking you know maybe that's why these

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01:39:35,140 --> 01:39:31,820
pharaohs were considered fairs is like

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01:39:41,550 --> 01:39:35,150
the what he called the the main person

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01:39:44,230 --> 01:39:41,560
of Buddha the what is the person in the

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01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:44,240
Tibetan monks what's that the main the

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01:39:48,649 --> 01:39:45,689
highest person there oh

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01:39:49,219 --> 01:39:48,659
donnelly Lama Dalai Lama Dalai Lama same

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01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:49,229
thing

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01:39:54,500 --> 01:39:52,320
what if they knew of the way in which

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01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:54,510
consciousness would be transfer of one

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01:39:59,719 --> 01:39:57,209
person to the other and that's how we

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01:40:02,299 --> 01:39:59,729
could live forever so the pyramids is

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01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:02,309
that an enigma in so many ways I mean

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01:40:07,489 --> 01:40:04,650
before there was water in that area you

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01:40:09,310 --> 01:40:07,499
have the Sphinx that the phase was

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01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:09,320
completely changed to what it was before

2073
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,110
but again I don't think that the ego

2074
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:15,840
presented to us by these text books and

2075
01:40:20,299 --> 01:40:18,090
the Rothschilds were behind the

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01:40:22,569 --> 01:40:20,309
educational system and the health system

2077
01:40:25,489 --> 01:40:22,579
they don't want us to be just this

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01:40:28,189 --> 01:40:25,499
rediscovering our true past because then

2079
01:40:30,500 --> 01:40:28,199
if that's the case we're gonna go before

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01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:30,510
that what is it that it's just the

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01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:32,820
pyramid what about other things that we

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01:40:37,909 --> 01:40:35,489
are finding the Yonaguni pyramids

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01:40:40,819 --> 01:40:37,919
under this sea in Japan which some

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01:40:42,529 --> 01:40:40,829
people say our natural formations but

2085
01:40:45,649 --> 01:40:42,539
when you start looking at the work of

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01:40:48,259 --> 01:40:45,659
Graham Hancock on others scuba diving

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01:40:51,020 --> 01:40:48,269
and seeing how it's straight and then

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01:40:53,719 --> 01:40:51,030
90-degree angles you know you have to

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01:40:55,339 --> 01:40:53,729
ask yourself why is this knowledge being

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01:40:57,199 --> 01:40:55,349
hidden from us as you were saying before

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01:40:59,089 --> 01:40:57,209
with the Flat Earth why can't we just

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01:41:03,949 --> 01:40:59,099
say what does it matter if we live in a

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01:41:05,569 --> 01:41:03,959
flat earth or a sphere well because when

2094
01:41:07,699 --> 01:41:05,579
we find the truth about our past and we

2095
01:41:10,069 --> 01:41:07,709
find out that it's a lie mm-hmm then it

2096
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:10,079
makes you wonder what else they're lying

2097
01:41:20,330 --> 01:41:15,650
about why is it that we are so easily

2098
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:20,340
deceived I'll give you an example before

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01:41:24,919 --> 01:41:22,110
you answer that we just talked about you

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01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:24,929
know everything being created at 3,000

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01:41:32,949 --> 01:41:29,070
BC before 3,000 BC is certainly what

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01:41:36,890 --> 01:41:32,959
history has been taught to us is that

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01:41:41,509 --> 01:41:36,900
one day there was nothing and the next

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01:41:44,089 --> 01:41:41,519
day sculptures pyramids you know coring

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01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:44,099
of red granite being moved around these

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01:41:51,739 --> 01:41:48,449
days Baalbek and in mathematics and true

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01:41:54,319 --> 01:41:51,749
north and geometry and and cultivating

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01:41:55,219 --> 01:41:54,329
wheat and domestic all of this stuff

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01:41:57,919 --> 01:41:55,229
happened

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01:41:58,990 --> 01:41:57,929
suddenly we had a perfectly upright and

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01:42:01,670 --> 01:41:59,000
walk

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01:42:04,570 --> 01:42:01,680
civilization that's what they actually

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01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:04,580
wanted us and want us to believe as

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01:42:11,150 --> 01:42:08,040
impossible as that sounds but we took

2115
01:42:14,410 --> 01:42:11,160
the bait mal we didn't question that why

2116
01:42:17,060 --> 01:42:14,420
is it that we are so easily deceived

2117
01:42:20,030 --> 01:42:17,070
well let me just say what Edgar Mitchell

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01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,040
told me the one time we spoke he said to

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01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:23,280
me my parents came from horse and buggy

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01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:27,960
to New Mexico from the East Coast and in

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01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:31,110
66 years or less than a hundred years

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01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:33,690
actually I went to the moon

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01:42:38,860 --> 01:42:36,690
so this explosion of technology happened

2124
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:38,870
in the infinite in the past 100 years

2125
01:42:46,490 --> 01:42:42,690
but when it comes to all that why is it

2126
01:42:50,030 --> 01:42:46,500
that we are not told that perhaps humans

2127
01:42:51,890 --> 01:42:50,040
existed and had more technology I mean

2128
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:51,900
what happens right now there's another

2129
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:54,090
Cataclysm ours that dr. Paul IV led for

2130
01:42:59,360 --> 01:42:56,850
example at Carrington event we're gonna

2131
01:43:00,800 --> 01:42:59,370
be without electricity for many many

2132
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:00,810
years but let's say it's that nuclear

2133
01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:03,450
attacking or what have you and then all

2134
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:05,580
of a sudden the few survivors and the

2135
01:43:09,530 --> 01:43:07,410
features that start digging and they

2136
01:43:11,330 --> 01:43:09,540
start seeing plastic oh these were the

2137
01:43:13,190 --> 01:43:11,340
plastic people right and they see an

2138
01:43:15,770 --> 01:43:13,200
iPhone and once this little square maybe

2139
01:43:18,170 --> 01:43:15,780
these are bricks to build a wallet and

2140
01:43:19,670 --> 01:43:18,180
laptops and computers they wouldn't be

2141
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:19,680
able to know what to do with them

2142
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,930
that's right No zecharia sitchin when he

2143
01:43:25,700 --> 01:43:23,760
told me you know what happens with these

2144
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,710
papers I have in my left hand or these

2145
01:43:31,130 --> 01:43:27,840
cuneiform tablets on my right hand which

2146
01:43:33,500 --> 01:43:31,140
one do you think will will survive the

2147
01:43:35,300 --> 01:43:33,510
test of time that's right and of course

2148
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:35,310
we know which one it is so instead of

2149
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:38,130
criticizing our ancestors why don't we

2150
01:43:43,490 --> 01:43:40,890
look more at as to what they did and try

2151
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:43,500
to understand how they were able to live

2152
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,840
perhaps and you know I don't want to

2153
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:47,760
sound you AG but something tells me

2154
01:43:51,770 --> 01:43:49,920
there was a unity consciousness at one

2155
01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:51,780
point in our past perhaps one language

2156
01:43:58,370 --> 01:43:56,490
if we actually use our mouths I honestly

2157
01:44:00,820 --> 01:43:58,380
I think that in the past we had the

2158
01:44:03,620 --> 01:44:00,830
ability to communicate mentally

2159
01:44:05,870 --> 01:44:03,630
telepathically telekinesis precognition

2160
01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:05,880
all these things were there in the past

2161
01:44:10,580 --> 01:44:08,490
perhaps we even lived a longer time even

2162
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:10,590
the Bible and I'm I'm not a religious

2163
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:11,850
person but the

2164
01:44:15,710 --> 01:44:13,920
Bible says that in first Testament over

2165
01:44:17,810 --> 01:44:15,720
a thousand years and then it went down

2166
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:17,820
to like two hundred so what happened to

2167
01:44:22,910 --> 01:44:20,610
our longevity and then you have GMOs and

2168
01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:22,920
then you have the electromagnetic wave

2169
01:44:27,650 --> 01:44:25,350
and soup that we live in right now it

2170
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:27,660
makes you wonder if this legalization of

2171
01:44:32,900 --> 01:44:30,570
cannabis this push that we're seeing is

2172
01:44:36,410 --> 01:44:32,910
perhaps because you know we have 5g

2173
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:36,420
coming this is an improving uncharted

2174
01:44:40,850 --> 01:44:38,340
territory what will happen in the future

2175
01:44:43,670 --> 01:44:40,860
good more cancer be happening and this

2176
01:44:46,730 --> 01:44:43,680
is why they know that cannabis is good

2177
01:44:48,770 --> 01:44:46,740
for it's actually can cure cancer and

2178
01:44:50,090 --> 01:44:48,780
perhaps they need to release that so

2179
01:44:51,980 --> 01:44:50,100
that the population doesn't just

2180
01:44:55,820 --> 01:44:51,990
disappear right right right

2181
01:44:59,780 --> 01:44:55,830
well I've you know animals without a

2182
01:45:01,970 --> 01:44:59,790
doubt communicate without talking right

2183
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:01,980
there's no question about that and when

2184
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:04,890
one of the most fascinating things to me

2185
01:45:10,340 --> 01:45:08,370
has been proven over and over again not

2186
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:10,350
the same time of day it could be any

2187
01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:13,290
time but your dog if you are driving up

2188
01:45:19,670 --> 01:45:16,260
the street knows you are coming home

2189
01:45:23,420 --> 01:45:19,680
right and will be at the door when you

2190
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:23,430
get there he knows he doesn't hear you

2191
01:45:28,460 --> 01:45:26,250
he doesn't see you he doesn't you know

2192
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:28,470
see you turning the corner a mile away

2193
01:45:32,810 --> 01:45:30,930
at a stoplight he doesn't see any of

2194
01:45:36,590 --> 01:45:32,820
that but he knows you're coming home

2195
01:45:38,810 --> 01:45:36,600
there is some kind of of communication

2196
01:45:41,330 --> 01:45:38,820
that happens with animals and and the

2197
01:45:45,050 --> 01:45:41,340
way that they are able to do that we

2198
01:45:47,480 --> 01:45:45,060
lost AI apps I totally agree with that

2199
01:45:50,410 --> 01:45:47,490
whether it's technology that has forced

2200
01:45:53,180 --> 01:45:50,420
us away from that distracted with

2201
01:45:56,540 --> 01:45:53,190
television and news and newspapers and

2202
01:45:59,900 --> 01:45:56,550
maybe even books work you know a lot of

2203
01:46:04,550 --> 01:45:59,910
things have have taken us away from the

2204
01:46:07,610 --> 01:46:04,560
self you know that you know 2000 3000

2205
01:46:10,430 --> 01:46:07,620
4000 years ago Entertainment was the

2206
01:46:13,900 --> 01:46:10,440
Stars how was that well you know that

2207
01:46:16,910 --> 01:46:13,910
was the Ford II TV that was the high-res

2208
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:16,920
cinema was looking up at the stars and

2209
01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:20,010
there was a communication of self with

2210
01:46:24,190 --> 01:46:22,260
everybody because they didn't have those

2211
01:46:25,900 --> 01:46:24,200
distractions they knew

2212
01:46:28,750 --> 01:46:25,910
what the brain could do what that what

2213
01:46:32,050 --> 01:46:28,760
the soul could do I really really

2214
01:46:34,750 --> 01:46:32,060
believe that I don't know how or why we

2215
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:34,760
got away from it but I think that we are

2216
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:36,410
starting to realize that there was

2217
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:38,480
something from the past and we are going

2218
01:46:43,690 --> 01:46:41,810
to continue to try to discover what the

2219
01:46:47,380 --> 01:46:43,700
ancients knew and we're getting closer

2220
01:46:51,580 --> 01:46:47,390
every day absolutely I mean look at the

2221
01:46:52,990 --> 01:46:51,590
2004 Indian Ocean tsunami thousands of

2222
01:46:56,140 --> 01:46:53,000
people died or disappeared

2223
01:46:59,500 --> 01:46:56,150
but there's one tribe in Indonesia all

2224
01:47:01,870 --> 01:46:59,510
of it survived except for one person who

2225
01:47:04,060 --> 01:47:01,880
was the a paraplegic person who could

2226
01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:04,070
not summon help but all those people

2227
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:07,190
from that tribe they I don't know they

2228
01:47:11,380 --> 01:47:09,110
followed other animals or they had their

2229
01:47:14,170 --> 01:47:11,390
instinct to go up the mountain so

2230
01:47:17,410 --> 01:47:14,180
something tells me that our indigenous

2231
01:47:19,780 --> 01:47:17,420
people around the world still hold that

2232
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:19,790
secret either they have the capability

2233
01:47:24,730 --> 01:47:22,970
because they're not very programmed and

2234
01:47:28,270 --> 01:47:24,740
they still have that connection with

2235
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:28,280
planet Earth but we need to be able to

2236
01:47:32,110 --> 01:47:30,080
reconnect with that that's why I tell

2237
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:32,120
people disconnect yourself from the

2238
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:34,370
subliminal tube disconnect yourself from

2239
01:47:39,550 --> 01:47:37,490
TVs and I did an experiment a few weeks

2240
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:39,560
ago I went to you know vacation in the

2241
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:41,030
Caribbean with my wife and daughter and

2242
01:47:47,410 --> 01:47:44,090
for the first time in years I decided to

2243
01:47:49,180 --> 01:47:47,420
leave my phone in the hotel I said to

2244
01:47:50,740 --> 01:47:49,190
myself I'm on vacation I'm with my wife

2245
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:50,750
she's the only one that needs to call me

2246
01:47:56,530 --> 01:47:52,730
so I left it behind I bought myself a

2247
01:47:58,480 --> 01:47:56,540
camera and I'm telling you I felt so so

2248
01:48:00,910 --> 01:47:58,490
much relieved and connected with my

2249
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:00,920
family in my environment these people

2250
01:48:04,030 --> 01:48:02,810
that leave their their jobs to go on

2251
01:48:06,190 --> 01:48:04,040
vacation and they're still connected

2252
01:48:08,770 --> 01:48:06,200
checking the email checking their texts

2253
01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:08,780
all the time perhaps this is just the

2254
01:48:14,530 --> 01:48:11,360
beginning of how to reconnect with with

2255
01:48:16,300 --> 01:48:14,540
with the world earthing another thing

2256
01:48:18,900 --> 01:48:16,310
that I discovered a couple of years ago

2257
01:48:22,570 --> 01:48:18,910
I used to think this is just pure

2258
01:48:24,970 --> 01:48:22,580
baloney but I tested the earthing and

2259
01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:24,980
every pain that I had on my knee or my

2260
01:48:29,860 --> 01:48:28,400
back went away I sleep like a baby and I

2261
01:48:32,230 --> 01:48:29,870
recommend it to everybody if you don't

2262
01:48:34,030 --> 01:48:32,240
if you don't have the mats go out on the

2263
01:48:36,130 --> 01:48:34,040
beach go out on the force take your

2264
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:36,140
shoes off do whatever you so often and

2265
01:48:39,729 --> 01:48:37,610
I'm telling you it's gonna

2266
01:48:41,229 --> 01:48:39,739
help you your life psychologically

2267
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:41,239
physically mentally

2268
01:48:47,260 --> 01:48:44,210
so just such an important thing now what

2269
01:48:49,390 --> 01:48:47,270
we we've gone through a few of these pop

2270
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:49,400
culture things that have been running

2271
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:51,650
around our community the last couple of

2272
01:48:56,740 --> 01:48:55,850
years and I have to say the Mandela

2273
01:49:01,000 --> 01:48:56,750
effect

2274
01:49:03,700 --> 01:49:01,010
rahmel it continues to mess with me to

2275
01:49:07,419 --> 01:49:03,710
mess with my head and my own memories I

2276
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:07,429
can listen everybody else's experiences

2277
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:09,050
and what they remember that's fine

2278
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:12,320
that's great but I have my own memories

2279
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:14,690
that are being messed with here - have

2280
01:49:19,359 --> 01:49:17,210
you been have you been experiencing the

2281
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:19,369
same thing absolutely when I heard the

2282
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:21,650
term first I thought come on now this is

2283
01:49:25,870 --> 01:49:24,170
just another SIOP like they call the

2284
01:49:27,729 --> 01:49:25,880
Flat Earth right but then I started

2285
01:49:28,540 --> 01:49:27,739
looking at how I used to remember the

2286
01:49:32,379 --> 01:49:28,550
Flintstones

2287
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:32,389
I used to remember Froot Loops or any of

2288
01:49:36,189 --> 01:49:34,130
these that the Bears team bears right

2289
01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:36,199
all these things and I remember them one

2290
01:49:40,209 --> 01:49:38,270
way and then all of a sudden they're

2291
01:49:43,090 --> 01:49:40,219
completely changed and I'm looking at

2292
01:49:44,979 --> 01:49:43,100
eBay and looking at you know places that

2293
01:49:48,189 --> 01:49:44,989
sell all their you know old stuff and

2294
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:48,199
it's written incorrectly as I remember

2295
01:49:51,490 --> 01:49:50,480
it some people say that maybe CERN has

2296
01:49:54,010 --> 01:49:51,500
something to do with it

2297
01:49:56,890 --> 01:49:54,020
perhaps you know we are merging into

2298
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,900
another parallel timeline who knows but

2299
01:50:01,600 --> 01:49:58,159
it hits me every so often

2300
01:50:04,450 --> 01:50:01,610
I remember Mandela but having died years

2301
01:50:07,060 --> 01:50:04,460
years ago before you know he died a few

2302
01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:07,070
years ago I remember that all of a

2303
01:50:10,810 --> 01:50:08,719
sudden they say old Mandela's just died

2304
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:10,820
and I thought he was dead and the same

2305
01:50:15,490 --> 01:50:12,770
thing happens with other people I tell

2306
01:50:17,050 --> 01:50:15,500
you what so many different examples but

2307
01:50:23,140 --> 01:50:17,060
you know what really brought it home for

2308
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:23,150
me was cup of noodles right so now I've

2309
01:50:28,209 --> 01:50:24,650
been eating cup of noodles since high

2310
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:28,219
school my dad okay won't bore everybody

2311
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:30,850
with that but anyway it's cup o noodles

2312
01:50:38,620 --> 01:50:35,840
and when you know and I C cup noodles

2313
01:50:42,580 --> 01:50:38,630
today and I go back and I look at all of

2314
01:50:46,050 --> 01:50:42,590
the images going back 2530 years to the

2315
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:46,060
mid-70s and they all say cup noodles and

2316
01:50:52,830 --> 01:50:49,570
I've know it was calm

2317
01:50:55,709 --> 01:50:52,840
noodles man there's no way so yeah you

2318
01:50:58,350 --> 01:50:55,719
know Steve Marilla right for MUFON okay

2319
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:58,360
well anyway he ran move on here for 13

2320
01:51:04,109 --> 01:51:01,119
years in in Los Angeles and now he runs

2321
01:51:09,500 --> 01:51:04,119
another organization called you pars but

2322
01:51:12,450 --> 01:51:09,510
Steve United States Naval Academy grad

2323
01:51:16,410 --> 01:51:12,460
went into the Marine Corps as a fighter

2324
01:51:18,750 --> 01:51:16,420
pilot a very accomplished guy very smart

2325
01:51:20,250 --> 01:51:18,760
guy respect him a lot we're out to

2326
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:20,260
dinner with them a couple of weeks ago

2327
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:22,719
we're in the Mandela fat comes up at

2328
01:51:28,979 --> 01:51:26,320
dinner and I third it and I go so what

2329
01:51:31,260 --> 01:51:28,989
is it man is it cup of noodles or cup

2330
01:51:33,319 --> 01:51:31,270
noodles Zack what are you talking about

2331
01:51:36,660 --> 01:51:33,329
it's a cup of noodles of course I said

2332
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:36,670
no it's cup noodles take out my phone

2333
01:51:43,050 --> 01:51:39,610
right I'm showing him and he's like no

2334
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,060
so then check this out Mel I said okay

2335
01:51:48,169 --> 01:51:45,040
the next person that walks by the table

2336
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:48,179
and we're at a very nice nice restaurant

2337
01:51:53,790 --> 01:51:51,790
next person that comes by and we pick

2338
01:51:55,319 --> 01:51:53,800
somebody out walk by the table and I

2339
01:51:57,209 --> 01:51:55,329
said okay come here for a second you're

2340
01:51:59,310 --> 01:51:57,219
gonna settle a bet between me and my

2341
01:51:59,819 --> 01:51:59,320
friend here hundred dollars is on the

2342
01:52:05,220 --> 01:51:59,829
table

2343
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:05,230
is it cup noodles it's cup of noodles

2344
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:07,210
eat them all the time cup noodles you

2345
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:11,440
are you sure yes now I bet you can go up

2346
01:52:18,540 --> 01:52:13,690
and nearly hit a hundred percent on this

2347
01:52:21,839 --> 01:52:18,550
I can millions of people have the wrong

2348
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:21,849
memory millions not not two or three not

2349
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:24,250
just you and I but we're talking about

2350
01:52:28,169 --> 01:52:26,170
millions of people involved with this

2351
01:52:31,740 --> 01:52:28,179
phenomenon there is something twisted

2352
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:31,750
going on what do you think it's costing

2353
01:52:37,740 --> 01:52:35,440
it in your opinion I think I think CERN

2354
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:37,750
is a big possibility but there's another

2355
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:40,960
I do believe that because CERN is an

2356
01:52:45,660 --> 01:52:43,599
experiment that they don't know the end

2357
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:45,670
results they are doing things out there

2358
01:52:50,069 --> 01:52:48,610
willy-nilly right let's just cut you

2359
01:52:54,839 --> 01:52:50,079
know let's collide these and see what

2360
01:52:58,410 --> 01:52:54,849
happens there's that but up in Silicon

2361
01:53:00,930 --> 01:52:58,420
Valley with quantum computers and the

2362
01:53:02,729 --> 01:53:00,940
research that is going on there now I'll

2363
01:53:07,169 --> 01:53:02,739
send you some stuff later

2364
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:07,179
the the company that has built the the

2365
01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:08,800
quantum computer here in Southern

2366
01:53:12,810 --> 01:53:11,230
California USC there's another one up at

2367
01:53:17,070 --> 01:53:12,820
Google there's another one at Lawrence

2368
01:53:19,770 --> 01:53:17,080
Livermore 3 the this CEO of that company

2369
01:53:22,830 --> 01:53:19,780
- this big presentation and he goes out

2370
01:53:24,419 --> 01:53:22,840
last year's you remember a bunch of

2371
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,429
these billionaires up in Silicon Valley

2372
01:53:28,169 --> 01:53:26,320
started talking about us living in the

2373
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:28,179
matrix right that there is a possibility

2374
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,730
this could be ones and zeroes and this

2375
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:32,320
could be well the reason why they were

2376
01:53:38,130 --> 01:53:35,170
saying that is the way that quantum

2377
01:53:40,169 --> 01:53:38,140
computers work with a qubit instead of a

2378
01:53:46,290 --> 01:53:40,179
bit with a qubit is they are taking

2379
01:53:49,470 --> 01:53:46,300
advantage of the the state of the qubit

2380
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:49,480
in another dimension parallel world

2381
01:53:54,419 --> 01:53:51,760
parallel world and when you get into

2382
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:54,429
quantum theory and quantum mechanics the

2383
01:54:01,410 --> 01:53:58,239
multi worlds theory is part of that

2384
01:54:03,330 --> 01:54:01,420
theorem so but what they started to find

2385
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:03,340
out the only way that they could get

2386
01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:05,290
these quantum computers to work was to

2387
01:54:11,939 --> 01:54:09,190
get these qubits to if you had instead

2388
01:54:16,350 --> 01:54:11,949
of having a million transistors on a

2389
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:16,360
chip on a quantum computer there's 2,000

2390
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:19,510
cubits not ten or twenty million

2391
01:54:24,860 --> 01:54:21,760
transistors there's only two thousand

2392
01:54:27,899 --> 01:54:24,870
right now but they take advantage of the

2393
01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:27,909
quantum states of these qubits in

2394
01:54:33,870 --> 01:54:30,340
infinite worlds so now you have infinite

2395
01:54:36,450 --> 01:54:33,880
amount of transistors or possibilities

2396
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:36,460
on a chip they figure that out in

2397
01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:38,050
Silicon Valley and the only way to

2398
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:40,270
answer to that with the straight face is

2399
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:44,050
we have parallel worlds and it's real

2400
01:54:49,530 --> 01:54:47,530
and so now if if all of this is starting

2401
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:49,540
to get proven on a scientific level

2402
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:52,719
black and white out of Silicon Valley

2403
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:55,360
with these engineers then therefore

2404
01:54:59,760 --> 01:54:57,610
these parallel worlds that are next to

2405
01:55:04,860 --> 01:54:59,770
you and I to our right and to our left

2406
01:55:06,930 --> 01:55:04,870
at an infinite amount that possibly we

2407
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:06,940
get a little next a little a little

2408
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:10,090
convergence into this world where we're

2409
01:55:15,490 --> 01:55:12,610
starting to overlap a little bit that's

2410
01:55:18,700 --> 01:55:15,500
that's also a possibility here

2411
01:55:21,970 --> 01:55:18,710
could be time travel too as well but the

2412
01:55:25,450 --> 01:55:21,980
fact that cup noodles is is messing with

2413
01:55:27,819 --> 01:55:25,460
my head says to me it's off it's so many

2414
01:55:30,370 --> 01:55:27,829
different aspects of it that there is

2415
01:55:32,350 --> 01:55:30,380
something going on here I just don't

2416
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:32,360
know quite what it is but the multi

2417
01:55:38,770 --> 01:55:36,110
world parallel possibility and it

2418
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:38,780
phasing in and out of our own it could

2419
01:55:45,459 --> 01:55:42,530
be part of it differ watch the series TV

2420
01:55:49,439 --> 01:55:45,469
series French I've watched every season

2421
01:55:52,270 --> 01:55:49,449
all five seasons at least five times

2422
01:55:55,479 --> 01:55:52,280
that parallel world it makes you wonder

2423
01:55:57,069 --> 01:55:55,489
all these new x-files even you know some

2424
01:55:59,560 --> 01:55:57,079
people have said that the x-files some

2425
01:56:01,359 --> 01:55:59,570
of the the scripts were based on true

2426
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:01,369
stories that are just simply

2427
01:56:08,919 --> 01:56:05,150
fictionalized there's a see when it

2428
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:08,929
comes to something like fringe and I

2429
01:56:13,569 --> 01:56:11,090
hate to always go back and compare

2430
01:56:15,790 --> 01:56:13,579
Hollywood or TV series with with these

2431
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:15,800
very important subjects but when it

2432
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:20,090
comes to fringe it is so simple and

2433
01:56:26,319 --> 01:56:22,730
obvious that you it allows other people

2434
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:26,329
outside of our communities right to see

2435
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:29,570
that and go okay that's a possibility I

2436
01:56:35,229 --> 01:56:32,960
get that that's how well that that show

2437
01:56:39,129 --> 01:56:35,239
was done that show I think it's a

2438
01:56:42,490 --> 01:56:39,139
documentary and so that's my take fringe

2439
01:56:45,819 --> 01:56:42,500
is based on it's a documentary without

2440
01:56:48,490 --> 01:56:45,829
making light of it and and so let me

2441
01:56:51,279 --> 01:56:48,500
throw this back at you when when people

2442
01:56:54,250 --> 01:56:51,289
start to talk about things like Mandela

2443
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:54,260
effect or parallel worlds what's the

2444
01:56:59,950 --> 01:56:56,000
best example that you would bring

2445
01:57:02,200 --> 01:56:59,960
forward that it is a reality when it

2446
01:57:02,830 --> 01:57:02,210
comes to the Mandela effect or parallel

2447
01:57:04,689 --> 01:57:02,840
worlds

2448
01:57:07,359 --> 01:57:04,699
exactly well the same thing that you

2449
01:57:10,569 --> 01:57:07,369
were saying these quantum computers and

2450
01:57:12,479 --> 01:57:10,579
also you know what if at one point in

2451
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:12,489
our history we were able to tap into

2452
01:57:19,450 --> 01:57:16,250
another parallel world technology or

2453
01:57:24,330 --> 01:57:19,460
wisdom or or knowledge and that's what

2454
01:57:26,859 --> 01:57:24,340
allowed us to incredibly you know expand

2455
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:26,869
technologically even what we see at the

2456
01:57:31,810 --> 01:57:28,970
beginning of the last century the

2457
01:57:33,550 --> 01:57:31,820
a century the the amount of technology

2458
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:33,560
that we see even right now I spoke to

2459
01:57:37,870 --> 01:57:35,210
another individual the other day who

2460
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:37,880
said that is it's no longer every 18

2461
01:57:41,620 --> 01:57:39,530
months that we are doubling our

2462
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:41,630
technologies happening much much faster

2463
01:57:46,740 --> 01:57:44,330
me look at a thing was Google that had

2464
01:57:49,390 --> 01:57:46,750
these two computers that were teaching

2465
01:57:50,890 --> 01:57:49,400
languages to each other you know Korean

2466
01:57:54,610 --> 01:57:50,900
to one Chinese to another one and that

2467
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:54,620
they found a way to to go around it

2468
01:57:59,320 --> 01:57:56,450
without having to teach themselves to

2469
01:58:01,630 --> 01:57:59,330
that they taught themselves a different

2470
01:58:04,660 --> 01:58:01,640
language that we cannot understand and

2471
01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:04,670
they had to shut him off last week so

2472
01:58:09,100 --> 01:58:06,910
you know where is all this exponential

2473
01:58:11,710 --> 01:58:09,110
knowledge coming from is it

2474
01:58:13,690 --> 01:58:11,720
extraterrestrial is it another puddle if

2475
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:13,700
we will go back to the Flat Earth model

2476
01:58:18,910 --> 01:58:16,490
where is it coming from and the question

2477
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:18,920
is are we ever gonna have disclosure and

2478
01:58:22,210 --> 01:58:20,330
I've had this conversation and you have

2479
01:58:23,650 --> 01:58:22,220
with Richard Dolan and the rest of them

2480
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:23,660
right I don't think it's in the best

2481
01:58:28,510 --> 01:58:25,610
interest of the powers that want to be

2482
01:58:30,820 --> 01:58:28,520
do this close at all well just we'll

2483
01:58:33,340 --> 01:58:30,830
find out that we have absolutely no way

2484
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:33,350
of defending ourselves and they event

2485
01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:35,150
that these whether they're benign or

2486
01:58:40,210 --> 01:58:37,760
maligne you know you know in order to be

2487
01:58:42,130 --> 01:58:40,220
able to protect our populations from

2488
01:58:43,900 --> 01:58:42,140
that so but that's a different show well

2489
01:58:46,510 --> 01:58:43,910
we got to take a break when we come back

2490
01:58:49,570 --> 01:58:46,520
we've got to do some et with Mel

2491
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:49,580
fàbregas Veritas radio this is Veritas

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on fade to black our murals Jimmy Church

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really love ponies I'm serious I

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Brooks my fade to black because you

2578
02:02:54,740 --> 02:02:51,710
this is fade to black with Jimmy Church

2579
02:02:59,010 --> 02:02:54,750
on the game changer radio network and K

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GRA the global radio alliance

2581
02:03:14,089 --> 02:03:12,799
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

2582
02:03:17,149 --> 02:03:14,099
your host Jimmy Church follow me on

2583
02:03:19,009 --> 02:03:17,159
twitter @ JT radio our guest tonight Mel

2584
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:19,019
fàbregas you can follow Mel at Mel

2585
02:03:22,580 --> 02:03:20,880
fàbregas it's right there in Twitter

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2587
02:03:28,580 --> 02:03:25,949
hashtag f2 B is the sandbox our guest

2588
02:03:32,629 --> 02:03:28,590
tonight Mel fàbregas this is a Veritas

2589
02:03:36,469 --> 02:03:32,639
on fade to black now Mel out of all of

2590
02:03:39,799 --> 02:03:36,479
your interviews I don't think I have

2591
02:03:45,020 --> 02:03:39,809
ever heard you reference maybe you have

2592
02:03:46,819 --> 02:03:45,030
but your own personal UFO sighting or et

2593
02:03:48,859 --> 02:03:46,829
experience have you seen something in

2594
02:03:51,049 --> 02:03:48,869
the sky well you're leaving the best for

2595
02:03:55,069 --> 02:03:51,059
last aren't you that's right so you just

2596
02:03:58,669 --> 02:03:55,079
came back from a SETI I believe yep I I

2597
02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:58,679
never saw a UFO before I was always

2598
02:04:03,620 --> 02:04:01,440
interested in seeing one and did let me

2599
02:04:05,660 --> 02:04:03,630
just explain what happened for years

2600
02:04:07,509 --> 02:04:05,670
people were telling me you need to go to

2601
02:04:09,649 --> 02:04:07,519
the east city ranch that's the Disney

2602
02:04:12,649 --> 02:04:09,659
Disneyland or Disney World for

2603
02:04:14,930 --> 02:04:12,659
ufologists right so in 2011 I was

2604
02:04:17,719 --> 02:04:14,940
invited to go up there and I'm thinking

2605
02:04:20,330 --> 02:04:17,729
okay I'm just gonna enjoy and in the

2606
02:04:21,620 --> 02:04:20,340
camera hurry with people and sit down at

2607
02:04:24,199 --> 02:04:21,630
night to see what happens I had low

2608
02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:24,209
expectations because I don't want to be

2609
02:04:28,370 --> 02:04:25,920
surprised that I might not be able to

2610
02:04:29,540 --> 02:04:28,380
find something but I'm sitting with a

2611
02:04:34,850 --> 02:04:29,550
bunch of people they're just like you

2612
02:04:36,589 --> 02:04:34,860
were all of a sudden this light almost

2613
02:04:39,620 --> 02:04:36,599
pink it's just coming my way

2614
02:04:42,469 --> 02:04:39,630
I have my camcorder with me I just

2615
02:04:44,899 --> 02:04:42,479
couldn't turn it on because I said maybe

2616
02:04:47,479 --> 02:04:44,909
if I turn it on I'll lose the sighting

2617
02:04:51,469 --> 02:04:47,489
and this thing stood on top of me and

2618
02:04:54,609 --> 02:04:51,479
they'd glue gold almost as if saying

2619
02:04:57,229 --> 02:04:54,619
here you go there's some proof that

2620
02:04:59,600 --> 02:04:57,239
we're here I don't know if they're

2621
02:05:01,819 --> 02:04:59,610
external I don't know if they're the US

2622
02:05:04,339 --> 02:05:01,829
military but I know that whatever I saw

2623
02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:04,349
is not conventional thankfully there was

2624
02:05:09,859 --> 02:05:06,510
a good friend of ours John Kelly there

2625
02:05:12,489 --> 02:05:09,869
who filmed that and I have proof of that

2626
02:05:15,709 --> 02:05:12,499
the second year I go back to East SETI

2627
02:05:17,899 --> 02:05:15,719
the first night we're there you know at

2628
02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:17,909
the at the house I'm going to sleep

2629
02:05:23,060 --> 02:05:20,159
early all of a sudden it starts shaking

2630
02:05:24,189 --> 02:05:23,070
shaking shaking the whole place I go

2631
02:05:26,589 --> 02:05:24,199
outside

2632
02:05:28,709 --> 02:05:26,599
there's a Chinook helicopter probably be

2633
02:05:32,439 --> 02:05:28,719
about a hundred feet from our heads

2634
02:05:34,270 --> 02:05:32,449
red lights inside and I'm thinking why

2635
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:34,280
would they be doing this to a civilian

2636
02:05:39,850 --> 02:05:36,800
area almost as if they're trying to find

2637
02:05:42,609 --> 02:05:39,860
you know signature oh you know a body's

2638
02:05:45,250 --> 02:05:42,619
signature from people who go there well

2639
02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:45,260
then the next day I see John Kelly in

2640
02:05:49,060 --> 02:05:47,209
the middle of the field he's looking at

2641
02:05:51,339 --> 02:05:49,070
Mount Adams and I know you have a great

2642
02:05:53,469 --> 02:05:51,349
story about this hole that you found at

2643
02:05:57,310 --> 02:05:53,479
man Adams but we're there at night and

2644
02:05:59,649 --> 02:05:57,320
all of a sudden two lights in the middle

2645
02:06:03,100 --> 02:05:59,659
of the mountain to start moving around

2646
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:03,110
and I'm just saying are these snow

2647
02:06:09,790 --> 02:06:06,400
mobiles right yeah what have they right

2648
02:06:11,859 --> 02:06:09,800
fast forward to another year one of our

2649
02:06:14,109 --> 02:06:11,869
listeners from Switzerland all of a

2650
02:06:16,509 --> 02:06:14,119
sudden says hey I need to share with you

2651
02:06:19,029 --> 02:06:16,519
some information and this is a story

2652
02:06:21,399 --> 02:06:19,039
that I've never been able to really put

2653
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:21,409
out there and show the images because

2654
02:06:24,910 --> 02:06:23,090
I'm not authorized I've showed him to a

2655
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:24,920
few researchers if I ever see you at a

2656
02:06:28,479 --> 02:06:27,650
conference I'll show him to you but he

2657
02:06:31,089 --> 02:06:28,489
said luck

2658
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:31,099
back in the 80s a friend of mine in

2659
02:06:36,009 --> 02:06:33,920
Switzerland why is it home all of a

2660
02:06:39,699 --> 02:06:36,019
sudden the house starts vibrating and

2661
02:06:41,859 --> 02:06:39,709
the dog just goes outside such running

2662
02:06:44,259 --> 02:06:41,869
to the field and the guy starts chasing

2663
02:06:48,129 --> 02:06:44,269
the dog all of a sudden this these

2664
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:48,139
lights start descending he starts

2665
02:06:52,779 --> 02:06:50,510
throwing stones pebbles at the add the

2666
02:06:55,209 --> 02:06:52,789
thing and he can hear the metallic sound

2667
02:06:58,540 --> 02:06:55,219
the thing landed and these figurines

2668
02:07:01,449 --> 02:06:58,550
come outside almost like making figures

2669
02:07:05,229 --> 02:07:01,459
with light and he took a bunch of

2670
02:07:06,580 --> 02:07:05,239
pictures of that a few years later they

2671
02:07:07,330 --> 02:07:06,590
gave him a signal that they were gonna

2672
02:07:10,750 --> 02:07:07,340
come back

2673
02:07:13,149 --> 02:07:10,760
he took his camera they and another

2674
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:13,159
display of what they could do they said

2675
02:07:17,290 --> 02:07:15,050
hey we want you to bring your car we

2676
02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,300
want to show you something you know I

2677
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:19,760
see all these pictures but he opened the

2678
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:23,570
doors all of a sudden these orbs these

2679
02:07:29,439 --> 02:07:27,110
lights start the materializing the car

2680
02:07:31,299 --> 02:07:29,449
these pictures are are basically from

2681
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:31,309
the old type of cameras with rolls a

2682
02:07:35,919 --> 02:07:33,650
friend of his at the vision of making

2683
02:07:38,649 --> 02:07:35,929
collar copies this

2684
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:38,659
man who took the pictures came to live

2685
02:07:43,179 --> 02:07:40,130
in the United States went to a

2686
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:43,189
conference 2006 or 10 I don't remember

2687
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:46,159
exactly but he went to a UFO conference

2688
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:48,530
showed the pictures there's the people

2689
02:07:54,129 --> 02:07:51,679
he went back to his hotel room and he

2690
02:07:57,609 --> 02:07:54,139
said not even half an hour later I had

2691
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:57,619
over 10 people from the government here

2692
02:08:02,140 --> 02:08:00,079
knocking it on the door and asking me

2693
02:08:04,689 --> 02:08:02,150
for the camera the originals the

2694
02:08:06,100 --> 02:08:04,699
negatives and everything and they said

2695
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:06,110
don't ever show those pictures again

2696
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:09,050
what did you see well I have the

2697
02:08:15,330 --> 02:08:10,880
pictures basically they're orbs they're

2698
02:08:19,239 --> 02:08:15,340
their lights one next to each other

2699
02:08:22,060 --> 02:08:19,249
making figurines you know on the road in

2700
02:08:25,979 --> 02:08:22,070
Switzerland D materialized in a car

2701
02:08:28,779 --> 02:08:25,989
now fast forward to 2011 now I'm at a

2702
02:08:31,929 --> 02:08:28,789
International UFO Congress and I got a

2703
02:08:34,270 --> 02:08:31,939
phone call that the actual witness was

2704
02:08:36,250 --> 02:08:34,280
in Arizona and they wanted to come meet

2705
02:08:38,729 --> 02:08:36,260
with me he came and met with me and

2706
02:08:42,250 --> 02:08:38,739
showed me pictures of the same orbs

2707
02:08:44,259 --> 02:08:42,260
visiting him here in the United States

2708
02:08:46,660 --> 02:08:44,269
he moved to the United States and the

2709
02:08:49,870 --> 02:08:46,670
orbs are showing all these things that

2710
02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:49,880
they do at his house and I'm asking him

2711
02:08:55,359 --> 02:08:52,030
what is this all about who are they and

2712
02:08:59,080 --> 02:08:55,369
his conclusion is that these are time

2713
02:09:02,229 --> 02:08:59,090
travelers apparently they're coming here

2714
02:09:05,319 --> 02:09:02,239
to look at us apparently we are living

2715
02:09:08,379 --> 02:09:05,329
in a time bubble where we're almost in a

2716
02:09:10,529 --> 02:09:08,389
prison planet and it's gonna be a few

2717
02:09:13,029 --> 02:09:10,539
years down the road that we're able to

2718
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:13,039
disconnect ourselves from this so-called

2719
02:09:18,399 --> 02:09:16,130
matrix and interact with call it a

2720
02:09:20,979 --> 02:09:18,409
galactic Brotherhood if you will but

2721
02:09:22,629 --> 02:09:20,989
these are you know time travelers go

2722
02:09:25,149 --> 02:09:22,639
into the past go into the future and

2723
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:25,159
that's what they are and one of the

2724
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:29,599
images one person one human human person

2725
02:09:34,929 --> 02:09:32,239
they came from the future came to visit

2726
02:09:36,910 --> 02:09:34,939
him and said do not take a picture of me

2727
02:09:38,919 --> 02:09:36,920
but he actually took a picture of a

2728
02:09:41,589 --> 02:09:38,929
mirror you could actually see the

2729
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:41,599
uniform and the technology he was using

2730
02:09:47,890 --> 02:09:44,719
he had this little metal right rectangle

2731
02:09:49,050 --> 02:09:47,900
that was showing the moon right there in

2732
02:09:51,330 --> 02:09:49,060
his living room

2733
02:09:53,340 --> 02:09:51,340
is just incredible images and this guy

2734
02:09:55,230 --> 02:09:53,350
does not want to come out because his

2735
02:09:57,890 --> 02:09:55,240
wife doesn't even know about it he

2736
02:10:00,360 --> 02:09:57,900
doesn't have a book so the question is

2737
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:00,370
why would he be lying about this and the

2738
02:10:05,940 --> 02:10:03,730
pictures seem so so convincing I hope

2739
02:10:07,890 --> 02:10:05,950
that one day he authorized me both Rises

2740
02:10:15,060 --> 02:10:07,900
me to release them and just tell the

2741
02:10:17,370 --> 02:10:15,070
story Wow when it comes to orbs and you

2742
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:17,380
know of course Corey good you know talks

2743
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:19,090
about the sphere being alliance and

2744
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:21,280
these these blue spheres and these blue

2745
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:26,290
orbs up in East SETI I had wealth it was

2746
02:10:29,460 --> 02:10:27,970
all of us that's one of the great things

2747
02:10:31,770 --> 02:10:29,470
about ecity you know that you're gonna

2748
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:31,780
have another 100 150 people around you

2749
02:10:37,500 --> 02:10:33,850
witnessing you have backup right

2750
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:37,510
absolutely and so I'm sitting in this

2751
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:40,570
chair it's in the video and but and I

2752
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:43,570
talked about it briefly but it's about

2753
02:10:47,610 --> 02:10:45,910
11 o'clock at night and I'm sitting all

2754
02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:47,620
the way to the right at the end of

2755
02:10:51,810 --> 02:10:49,630
everybody and I'm looking out across Sky

2756
02:10:56,070 --> 02:10:51,820
Watch field I don't have any binoculars

2757
02:10:58,380 --> 02:10:56,080
it's just my eyes and I see in in the

2758
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,390
moonlight at the back side of the field

2759
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:00,400
you know which is probably a quarter

2760
02:11:07,890 --> 02:11:04,960
mile or more away come out from behind

2761
02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:07,900
the trees this grey or it lasted mal for

2762
02:11:12,540 --> 02:11:10,270
about five seconds that was it but it

2763
02:11:15,330 --> 02:11:12,550
was a little gray dot and it swoops

2764
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:15,340
around from behind the trees and gets

2765
02:11:18,930 --> 02:11:16,810
bigger and bigger and bigger and then

2766
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:18,940
stops at the end of the field and now

2767
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:21,370
I'm guessing that this thing was about

2768
02:11:27,420 --> 02:11:24,930
50 feet in diameter but it's

2769
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:27,430
two-dimensional right it's like an old

2770
02:11:31,740 --> 02:11:29,920
video game it's flat it's like there are

2771
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:31,750
the orbs that you see in photographs

2772
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:34,480
right it's not a 3d it's 2d and it's

2773
02:11:40,500 --> 02:11:36,490
kind of smudged around the edges and

2774
02:11:43,080 --> 02:11:40,510
then it just fades away now I rub my

2775
02:11:44,730 --> 02:11:43,090
eyes right thinking oh I've got you know

2776
02:11:46,350 --> 02:11:44,740
something a floaty in my eye and that

2777
02:11:48,510 --> 02:11:46,360
was kind of weird right okay and I'm

2778
02:11:51,060 --> 02:11:48,520
rubbing my eyes and as I do that this

2779
02:11:55,590 --> 02:11:51,070
lady behind me says there's anybody

2780
02:11:57,810 --> 02:11:55,600
watching that gray or about there and I

2781
02:12:01,680 --> 02:11:57,820
spin around and I said do you mean that

2782
02:12:05,729 --> 02:12:01,690
was real holy crap you know and

2783
02:12:09,450 --> 02:12:05,739
now before anybody can tell me that you

2784
02:12:12,510 --> 02:12:09,460
know I'm crazy I'm a mad no it was as

2785
02:12:15,390 --> 02:12:12,520
real as anything now what it was I can't

2786
02:12:19,650 --> 02:12:15,400
explain I don't know but I wasn't the

2787
02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:19,660
only one to see it now that the science

2788
02:12:23,490 --> 02:12:21,340
needs to get behind this I don't know

2789
02:12:25,380 --> 02:12:23,500
why they don't but what is it that we

2790
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:25,390
are seeing is it something from the

2791
02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:28,570
future is it interdimensional is it some

2792
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:31,030
life force here that we that is around

2793
02:12:36,810 --> 02:12:32,410
us all the time that we just don't know

2794
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:36,820
about is it some kind of animal is it is

2795
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:40,330
it is it ET I you know I I don't know I

2796
02:12:44,130 --> 02:12:42,370
all those thoughts are you referring to

2797
02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:44,140
that once I saw it he said II they were

2798
02:12:49,050 --> 02:12:46,030
kind of like the grayish looking once

2799
02:12:52,050 --> 02:12:49,060
and I had a laser pointer and they were

2800
02:12:53,689 --> 02:12:52,060
actually following it intelligently but

2801
02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:53,699
those are not the orbs that this man

2802
02:12:59,130 --> 02:12:56,760
photographed that these are big massive

2803
02:13:01,020 --> 02:12:59,140
some are yellow some are orange some are

2804
02:13:02,490 --> 02:13:01,030
blue but I'm gonna tell you another

2805
02:13:05,070 --> 02:13:02,500
story if you'd like to hear it that

2806
02:13:07,709 --> 02:13:05,080
happened to me at East SETI the last

2807
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:07,719
time I went there years ago 2012 thing

2808
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:10,930
it was James in the end he wanted to do

2809
02:13:15,150 --> 02:13:13,090
a clearing with me I don't know he had a

2810
02:13:16,770 --> 02:13:15,160
chance to do that with him but he said

2811
02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:16,780
by the way you have a spirit guide her

2812
02:13:21,450 --> 02:13:18,940
name is Nadia and whenever you need to

2813
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:21,460
you know assistance you call her and I

2814
02:13:26,250 --> 02:13:23,410
thought okay you know whatever you know

2815
02:13:28,740 --> 02:13:26,260
I'm open-minded so a few months later I

2816
02:13:30,750 --> 02:13:28,750
go to a conference in Sedona and at

2817
02:13:34,740 --> 02:13:30,760
night some of the people invited me to a

2818
02:13:36,660 --> 02:13:34,750
came cars bar called Carlsberg house for

2819
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:36,670
a game it was like a game of Monopoly

2820
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:39,280
but it's almost like Ouija you know you

2821
02:13:44,180 --> 02:13:42,250
basically call spirit guides and so on

2822
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:44,190
so when it's my chance

2823
02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:46,810
somebody said I've never mentioned this

2824
02:13:56,660 --> 02:13:48,640
to anyone by the way only James and I

2825
02:14:01,080 --> 02:13:58,439
I'm a skeptic

2826
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:01,090
first and foremost right but I said okay

2827
02:14:05,670 --> 02:14:02,650
I'm gonna remove my hands from the board

2828
02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:05,680
because I don't want to you know make

2829
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:07,480
any interferes with what's gonna happen

2830
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:10,239
here I said okay not here you're here

2831
02:14:15,620 --> 02:14:14,890
and I said do you remember where you we

2832
02:14:18,169 --> 02:14:15,630
met

2833
02:14:21,860 --> 02:14:18,179
and then the person who's describing and

2834
02:14:24,379 --> 02:14:21,870
the other person says yes we met at the

2835
02:14:26,450 --> 02:14:24,389
II said II Stargate and I'm thinking my

2836
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:26,460
goodness I had to go james gilliland and

2837
02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:28,170
tell him the story because nobody knew

2838
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:30,960
but me right so how do you explain these

2839
02:14:38,030 --> 02:14:33,570
things scientifically without sounding

2840
02:14:40,370 --> 02:14:38,040
crazy you can't and see I really I

2841
02:14:42,979 --> 02:14:40,380
really believe that these experiences

2842
02:14:46,129 --> 02:14:42,989
like this coming from you or coming from

2843
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:46,139
me if we share you know these things

2844
02:14:51,260 --> 02:14:48,719
that happen to us publicly then

2845
02:14:53,149 --> 02:14:51,270
everybody else will open up and say you

2846
02:14:54,649 --> 02:14:53,159
know what I've had the exact I'm glad

2847
02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:54,659
you're talk because I've never talked

2848
02:14:59,060 --> 02:14:56,639
about it before and and now I feel like

2849
02:15:01,879 --> 02:14:59,070
I can and I think that's what's really

2850
02:15:03,890 --> 02:15:01,889
important I've always looked at you as

2851
02:15:05,479 --> 02:15:03,900
being very pragmatic but you know the

2852
02:15:07,189 --> 02:15:05,489
audience right now it's probably thought

2853
02:15:09,520 --> 02:15:07,199
the same thing now they're good and you

2854
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:09,530
know what actually Mel's pretty cool

2855
02:15:14,899 --> 02:15:12,570
Mel's pretty cool I wanted to ask you

2856
02:15:18,500 --> 02:15:14,909
and thank you for sharing that

2857
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:18,510
I am I you know talking about orbs or

2858
02:15:23,090 --> 02:15:20,820
fairies or things you know you know I

2859
02:15:25,729 --> 02:15:23,100
don't care anymore Mel I just don't it

2860
02:15:27,470 --> 02:15:25,739
doesn't bother me oh I wanted to ask you

2861
02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:27,480
I'm gonna do this publicly really quick

2862
02:15:31,879 --> 02:15:29,610
I don't think I don't think you've ever

2863
02:15:32,330 --> 02:15:31,889
done coast-to-coast have you no I have

2864
02:15:34,070 --> 02:15:32,340
not

2865
02:15:35,870 --> 02:15:34,080
you want to haven't had that privileged

2866
02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:35,880
okay well you want to do it maybe this

2867
02:15:43,490 --> 02:15:39,870
weekend when this weekend like Saturday

2868
02:15:46,270 --> 02:15:43,500
Saturday okay okay but check your books

2869
02:15:48,830 --> 02:15:46,280
I'll talk to you about it tomorrow and

2870
02:15:51,020 --> 02:15:48,840
I'll see if I can make that happen for

2871
02:15:52,939 --> 02:15:51,030
you and will well like continue this

2872
02:15:59,209 --> 02:15:52,949
conversation over on coasts this

2873
02:16:01,600 --> 02:15:59,219
Saturday this thing that has been going

2874
02:16:03,500 --> 02:16:01,610
on over the last couple of years with

2875
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:03,510
because you brought up disclosure

2876
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:06,330
earlier but we have been getting you

2877
02:16:12,830 --> 02:16:10,290
follow the news the this this thing on a

2878
02:16:16,370 --> 02:16:12,840
weekly basis about exoplanets or fast

2879
02:16:20,209 --> 02:16:16,380
radio bursts or laser you know alien

2880
02:16:24,010 --> 02:16:20,219
megastructures life on Europa it's it's

2881
02:16:28,189 --> 02:16:24,020
like every single week now that this

2882
02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:28,199
constant quest for alien the search for

2883
02:16:33,350 --> 02:16:29,280
alien or

2884
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:33,360
contact is is talked about and and what

2885
02:16:39,500 --> 02:16:35,490
what do you think is actually going on

2886
02:16:40,730 --> 02:16:39,510
with that I think I think I remembered

2887
02:16:42,020 --> 02:16:40,740
this conversation that I had with Nick

2888
02:16:44,500 --> 02:16:42,030
Pope many years ago

2889
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:44,510
and he told me that there would be a

2890
02:16:50,420 --> 02:16:48,000
slow drip process and that slow drip

2891
02:16:54,380 --> 02:16:50,430
that little drop would be go faster and

2892
02:16:55,810 --> 02:16:54,390
faster and faster and me personally I

2893
02:16:58,880 --> 02:16:55,820
don't want to offend anybody but

2894
02:17:00,500 --> 02:16:58,890
personally when I hear the word

2895
02:17:03,050 --> 02:17:00,510
disclosure coming from a government

2896
02:17:03,650 --> 02:17:03,060
entity I would not believe it for a

2897
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:03,660
minute

2898
02:17:07,730 --> 02:17:06,450
I think if disclosure ever occurs it's

2899
02:17:09,650 --> 02:17:07,740
gonna be at a grassroots level it's

2900
02:17:12,050 --> 02:17:09,660
gonna be Jimmy Church or mail or

2901
02:17:13,340 --> 02:17:12,060
somebody else who has some people who

2902
02:17:15,380 --> 02:17:13,350
are providing evidence that this is

2903
02:17:18,740 --> 02:17:15,390
happening if we don't get killed first

2904
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,750
of course but you know the fact that we

2905
02:17:22,700 --> 02:17:20,880
want to go to Mars and we don't want to

2906
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:22,710
go to the moon first we don't want to

2907
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:24,930
have an outpost at the moon first and

2908
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:26,880
we're thinking about these other planets

2909
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:30,240
you know it's important that for the

2910
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:33,690
military-industrial prison intelligence

2911
02:17:40,430 --> 02:17:37,170
complex to continue their work and if

2912
02:17:42,650 --> 02:17:40,440
wars are no longer effective and people

2913
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:42,660
are waking up to the fact that most wars

2914
02:17:48,140 --> 02:17:45,210
are because of you know contrived

2915
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:48,150
religion extremism financial you know

2916
02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:50,970
working on both sides what a better way

2917
02:17:56,630 --> 02:17:52,410
to do this

2918
02:18:00,200 --> 02:17:56,640
but to bring an exterior an EXO threat

2919
02:18:02,300 --> 02:18:00,210
just like reagan said you know i wonder

2920
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:02,310
how things would be if we were facing an

2921
02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:03,930
alien threat from outside of this world

2922
02:18:09,710 --> 02:18:06,570
and we could unite the entire planet i

2923
02:18:12,460 --> 02:18:09,720
think that is the next step as Carol

2924
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:12,470
Russ and said according to what Gordon

2925
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:15,210
to Vernon from Braun told her that the

2926
02:18:20,150 --> 02:18:17,730
last card would be an extraterrestrial

2927
02:18:23,060 --> 02:18:20,160
invasion first it's going to be the Cold

2928
02:18:25,970 --> 02:18:23,070
War then it's going to be terrorism the

2929
02:18:27,950 --> 02:18:25,980
boogeyman then it's going to be a an EXO

2930
02:18:30,620 --> 02:18:27,960
object an asteroid that meteor or

2931
02:18:32,810 --> 02:18:30,630
something else but the final card would

2932
02:18:35,060 --> 02:18:32,820
be the extra-terrestrial innovation and

2933
02:18:36,740 --> 02:18:35,070
when it happens don't believe it for a

2934
02:18:38,930 --> 02:18:36,750
minute but then you hear NASA all that

2935
02:18:41,390 --> 02:18:38,940
I'm saying that we have found earth-like

2936
02:18:42,860 --> 02:18:41,400
planets in the Goldilocks zone of

2937
02:18:44,570 --> 02:18:42,870
several Suns

2938
02:18:46,580 --> 02:18:44,580
it makes you wonder if they're preparing

2939
02:18:47,540 --> 02:18:46,590
people and all these movies that are

2940
02:18:49,610 --> 02:18:47,550
coming out of me lucky

2941
02:18:51,709 --> 02:18:49,620
September 22nd I believe close

2942
02:18:54,770 --> 02:18:51,719
encounters of the third kind is coming

2943
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,780
back 4k so all these movies coming out

2944
02:18:59,480 --> 02:18:56,880
again almost like if they're planting a

2945
02:19:01,280 --> 02:18:59,490
seed of something else to come whether

2946
02:19:03,709 --> 02:19:01,290
that's gonna be the case or not I don't

2947
02:19:06,410 --> 02:19:03,719
know but please people when you hear the

2948
02:19:08,510 --> 02:19:06,420
government saying we are confirming that

2949
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:08,520
we have been in contact with

2950
02:19:11,930 --> 02:19:10,290
extraterrestrial presence for years I

2951
02:19:16,010 --> 02:19:11,940
don't know if they'll believe it to me

2952
02:19:18,770 --> 02:19:16,020
well and with with all of your

2953
02:19:21,490 --> 02:19:18,780
interviews and and your friends and and

2954
02:19:25,970 --> 02:19:21,500
the knowledge that you have collected

2955
02:19:29,510 --> 02:19:25,980
how much do you think the the world

2956
02:19:31,700 --> 02:19:29,520
governments actually do know do you feel

2957
02:19:33,590 --> 02:19:31,710
that they have made contact and are

2958
02:19:36,919 --> 02:19:33,600
continuing contact and are holding that

2959
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:36,929
knowledge from us the opposite of they

2960
02:19:42,410 --> 02:19:38,850
know that that were not alone in the

2961
02:19:45,560 --> 02:19:42,420
universe I'm talking about from Roswell

2962
02:19:48,260 --> 02:19:45,570
forward that that you know that there is

2963
02:19:50,420 --> 02:19:48,270
bodies being held somewhere we we have a

2964
02:19:53,570 --> 02:19:50,430
treaty we have communication we're

2965
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:53,580
sharing technology what do you think is

2966
02:19:57,290 --> 02:19:55,920
actually going on let me unpack that

2967
02:19:59,930 --> 02:19:57,300
that was a multi-pronged question I

2968
02:20:02,301 --> 02:19:59,940
think I believe that governments know

2969
02:20:04,130 --> 02:20:02,311
about this especially the biggest hammer

2970
02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:04,140
in the world which is the United States

2971
02:20:09,710 --> 02:20:08,490
I think definitely we know and when we

2972
02:20:11,301 --> 02:20:09,720
have all these people talking about

2973
02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:11,311
extraterrestrials and the government

2974
02:20:15,740 --> 02:20:13,680
really kill them or fictionalize them

2975
02:20:17,690 --> 02:20:15,750
it's because they don't want people to

2976
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:17,700
know that there's a reality behind the

2977
02:20:22,580 --> 02:20:20,010
scenes that's interacting with us here I

2978
02:20:24,980 --> 02:20:22,590
remember years ago when it started this

2979
02:20:27,740 --> 02:20:24,990
program you remember the lights that

2980
02:20:30,170 --> 02:20:27,750
were that we're seen by the Mexican Air

2981
02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:30,180
Force in the Bay of Campeche in Mexico

2982
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:32,130
that's right and they were told later

2983
02:20:38,330 --> 02:20:35,610
all those our oil platforms well I went

2984
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:38,340
to the Ministry of Defense in in Mexico

2985
02:20:44,990 --> 02:20:41,010
and actually got an interview scheduled

2986
02:20:47,450 --> 02:20:45,000
with the Deputy Assistant Secretary of

2987
02:20:49,610 --> 02:20:47,460
Defense a brigadier general and he

2988
02:20:52,551 --> 02:20:49,620
canceled five minutes before the

2989
02:20:56,720 --> 02:20:52,561
interview but he did send me a letter in

2990
02:21:00,171 --> 02:20:56,730
which he said we cannot confirm or deny

2991
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:00,181
what we saw that day and I think it's

2992
02:21:03,291 --> 02:21:01,530
because number one they canceled the

2993
02:21:06,350 --> 02:21:03,301
interview because the United States

2994
02:21:09,860 --> 02:21:06,360
probably said do not talk why would he

2995
02:21:11,541 --> 02:21:09,870
be saying we cannot confirm or deny why

2996
02:21:13,671 --> 02:21:11,551
couldn't he say yet they were confirmed

2997
02:21:15,291 --> 02:21:13,681
to be all platforms I think the United

2998
02:21:17,900 --> 02:21:15,301
States has the influence in every

2999
02:21:20,961 --> 02:21:17,910
country out there perhaps we have exotic

3000
02:21:22,940 --> 02:21:20,971
technology that if anybody decides to

3001
02:21:24,560 --> 02:21:22,950
talk we can create an earthquake look

3002
02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:24,570
what happened in Haiti look what

3003
02:21:31,011 --> 02:21:26,070
happened these in the last two months

3004
02:21:34,190 --> 02:21:31,021
with the US Navy ships twice it's some

3005
02:21:36,350 --> 02:21:34,200
merchant ship or or or oil tanker has

3006
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:36,360
been just disabling but this is what it

3007
02:21:41,841 --> 02:21:39,120
looks like disabling our technology

3008
02:21:44,030 --> 02:21:41,851
making the the vessel inoperable to the

3009
02:21:46,161 --> 02:21:44,040
point that they come back they disabled

3010
02:21:49,671 --> 02:21:46,171
they come back and they ram into it

3011
02:21:52,070 --> 02:21:49,681
wanting to sink it almost as if say to

3012
02:21:53,511 --> 02:21:52,080
Russia China what other country they

3013
02:21:56,240 --> 02:21:53,521
don't want the United States to start

3014
02:21:58,070 --> 02:21:56,250
another war almost as if saying local we

3015
02:21:59,480 --> 02:21:58,080
can do with one of your vessels we can

3016
02:22:02,751 --> 02:21:59,490
do the same thing with all your fleets

3017
02:22:07,970 --> 02:22:02,761
so don't even start again we don't know

3018
02:22:10,881 --> 02:22:07,980
how to drive a boat exactly how does

3019
02:22:12,890 --> 02:22:10,891
that start happening I'm totally with

3020
02:22:15,650 --> 02:22:12,900
you on that it that is about as

3021
02:22:17,331 --> 02:22:15,660
perplexing as anything oh oh oh I wanted

3022
02:22:18,921 --> 02:22:17,341
that okay you know what can I keep you

3023
02:22:19,430 --> 02:22:18,931
for another ten minutes after the next

3024
02:22:21,201 --> 02:22:19,440
break

3025
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:21,211
sure okay because we have two other

3026
02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:24,000
subjects I want to get to and one of

3027
02:22:26,871 --> 02:22:26,160
those was Apollo I don't want that to

3028
02:22:31,161 --> 02:22:26,881
get away from us

3029
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:31,171
but before this next break the the this

3030
02:22:36,890 --> 02:22:35,250
Nazca mummy that Gaia has brought out I

3031
02:22:38,690 --> 02:22:36,900
know that you've seen the videos and

3032
02:22:47,470 --> 02:22:38,700
you've looked at these images and the

3033
02:22:50,091 --> 02:22:47,480
MRIs and the radar radar the the x-rays

3034
02:22:52,940 --> 02:22:50,101
but what are your eyeballs telling you

3035
02:22:57,261 --> 02:22:52,950
what's your gut I love my friend Jay

3036
02:22:59,270 --> 02:22:57,271
whiner I would say no comment yeah man I

3037
02:23:05,180 --> 02:22:59,280
just spent the weekend with Jay right

3038
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:05,190
this past weekend okay and he's a really

3039
02:23:09,921 --> 02:23:07,410
good friend and I'm with you on this but

3040
02:23:10,670 --> 02:23:09,931
my eyes say this is really good eye

3041
02:23:13,189 --> 02:23:10,680
candy

3042
02:23:16,939 --> 02:23:13,199
it's too good to be true it's too good

3043
02:23:21,050 --> 02:23:16,949
to be true but what if right so you know

3044
02:23:23,479 --> 02:23:21,060
until we get the DNA stuff back but so

3045
02:23:27,889 --> 02:23:23,489
again but let me ask you I mean what are

3046
02:23:30,410 --> 02:23:27,899
your eyeballs say I hope Jays not

3047
02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:30,420
listening but I think it's a fake okay

3048
02:23:36,860 --> 02:23:34,560
and again I don't have all the proof but

3049
02:23:38,599 --> 02:23:36,870
unfortunately I know Jaime Mao son is

3050
02:23:41,269 --> 02:23:38,609
involved too and we've seen some of the

3051
02:23:44,840 --> 02:23:41,279
things that he has come up you know in

3052
02:23:47,599 --> 02:23:44,850
the past and I just don't don't see it I

3053
02:23:49,969 --> 02:23:47,609
think that this is something that's

3054
02:23:51,229 --> 02:23:49,979
being sensationalized I don't see it I

3055
02:23:54,410 --> 02:23:51,239
don't see it being true at all

3056
02:23:58,580 --> 02:23:54,420
yeah and that this is where I we get

3057
02:24:00,110 --> 02:23:58,590
into a very weird paradox for me and you

3058
02:24:02,030 --> 02:24:00,120
said some of the things that Jaime

3059
02:24:03,710 --> 02:24:02,040
Masson has been involved with no I'll

3060
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:03,720
take that a step further all of the

3061
02:24:08,330 --> 02:24:05,850
things that he's been involved with I

3062
02:24:09,010 --> 02:24:08,340
was just being nice yes so that being

3063
02:24:13,219 --> 02:24:09,020
said

3064
02:24:18,820 --> 02:24:13,229
gyein knows that too right they know

3065
02:24:21,710 --> 02:24:18,830
that so why jeopardize your reputation

3066
02:24:23,599 --> 02:24:21,720
unless there is something else to it

3067
02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:23,609
that you're willing to take the risk of

3068
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:26,850
having the Jaime Masson baggage come

3069
02:24:30,830 --> 02:24:29,250
along with it that's a clean you know

3070
02:24:33,679 --> 02:24:30,840
that's where I kind of trip a little bit

3071
02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:33,689
also Jay is one of the smartest guys

3072
02:24:40,429 --> 02:24:37,410
that I know yeah you know and he he has

3073
02:24:44,240 --> 02:24:40,439
you know he has had his rough roads in

3074
02:24:47,960 --> 02:24:44,250
the past why go down this voluntarily if

3075
02:24:50,330 --> 02:24:47,970
you know that that that it's a hoax and

3076
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:50,340
these were manufactured you know that's

3077
02:24:55,189 --> 02:24:53,010
where the paradox for me kicks into gear

3078
02:24:58,580 --> 02:24:55,199
it's like you're damned if you do damned

3079
02:25:00,530 --> 02:24:58,590
if you don't and you need to you need to

3080
02:25:02,660 --> 02:25:00,540
kind of look at it that's not you know I

3081
02:25:05,330 --> 02:25:02,670
mean everybody kind of asked yourself

3082
02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,340
that same question we you know if the

3083
02:25:10,040 --> 02:25:07,920
Jaime Masson you know name comes up and

3084
02:25:12,830 --> 02:25:10,050
every well it's Jaime so that well you

3085
02:25:16,939 --> 02:25:12,840
know what guy is not that dumb they know

3086
02:25:20,300 --> 02:25:16,949
that they know what is what everybody is

3087
02:25:21,800 --> 02:25:20,310
going to say you know like one thing

3088
02:25:24,229 --> 02:25:21,810
that I know you wouldn't do and I

3089
02:25:24,650 --> 02:25:24,239
wouldn't do i wouldn't sensationalize

3090
02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:24,660
some

3091
02:25:30,740 --> 02:25:28,050
to bring subscribers and I hate to say

3092
02:25:33,860 --> 02:25:30,750
but this could be why Gaea is doing it

3093
02:25:37,940 --> 02:25:33,870
what sure did is this sells that's the

3094
02:25:41,660 --> 02:25:37,950
obvious thing when you have I remember

3095
02:25:43,820 --> 02:25:41,670
in three days when the story broken like

3096
02:25:47,060 --> 02:25:43,830
Wednesday and we broke it here and was

3097
02:25:49,639 --> 02:25:47,070
you know by the time Friday rolled

3098
02:25:53,960 --> 02:25:49,649
around I had J on coast with me that

3099
02:25:56,719 --> 02:25:53,970
night and they had clocked up like 50

3100
02:25:59,719 --> 02:25:56,729
million views in like two and a half

3101
02:26:04,090 --> 02:25:59,729
days think about that is a crazy amount

3102
02:26:06,889 --> 02:26:04,100
of exposure so could this be subscribe

3103
02:26:09,860 --> 02:26:06,899
subscriber driven could this be a money

3104
02:26:11,660 --> 02:26:09,870
play well money everybody has their

3105
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:11,670
price no there's no question about that

3106
02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:14,610
but when it comes to reputation in this

3107
02:26:19,850 --> 02:26:17,250
community that's the last thing that we

3108
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:19,860
need is another black eye and I just

3109
02:26:25,250 --> 02:26:22,800
don't see J voluntarily no matter what

3110
02:26:28,520 --> 02:26:25,260
kind of money is involved to do such a

3111
02:26:31,730 --> 02:26:28,530
thing so that that's my I'm torn I you

3112
02:26:34,910 --> 02:26:31,740
know I'm torn in both directions I'm

3113
02:26:36,410 --> 02:26:34,920
torn as well but again we cannot throw

3114
02:26:38,660 --> 02:26:36,420
the baby out with the bathwater they

3115
02:26:40,760 --> 02:26:38,670
have great people Regina Meredith they

3116
02:26:43,820 --> 02:26:40,770
have great people who are host on gaya

3117
02:26:46,429 --> 02:26:43,830
who bring out great you know these

3118
02:26:49,790 --> 02:26:46,439
people are journalists but then again

3119
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:49,800
they have this 50 million views perhaps

3120
02:26:52,969 --> 02:26:51,210
some people are gonna be disappointed

3121
02:26:54,380 --> 02:26:52,979
but they realize that they will people

3122
02:26:56,270 --> 02:26:54,390
who be subscribed because of other

3123
02:26:58,280 --> 02:26:56,280
things other material that they have

3124
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:58,290
involved I mean we can discuss after we

3125
02:27:01,639 --> 02:27:00,240
come back from the break when I was to

3126
02:27:03,679 --> 02:27:01,649
the the History Channel

3127
02:27:06,620 --> 02:27:03,689
I saw certain things that I did not like

3128
02:27:07,639 --> 02:27:06,630
and you may share your own story but I

3129
02:27:09,290 --> 02:27:07,649
can discuss that later

3130
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:09,300
sure well let's do that when we come

3131
02:27:13,639 --> 02:27:11,250
back after the break and I do want to

3132
02:27:16,130 --> 02:27:13,649
discuss speaking of J Widener might as

3133
02:27:18,050 --> 02:27:16,140
well do a little Apollo right and I'm

3134
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:18,060
sure that he is listening by the way our

3135
02:27:22,280 --> 02:27:20,130
guest tonight is some hell fàbregas J I

3136
02:27:23,960 --> 02:27:22,290
love you that yeah he knows there's

3137
02:27:27,260 --> 02:27:23,970
nothing but love for Jay Wyden around

3138
02:27:29,300 --> 02:27:27,270
here on the GameChanger network and k

3139
02:27:31,219 --> 02:27:29,310
GRA the planet this is fade to black our

3140
02:27:34,411 --> 02:27:31,229
guests this is serious now

3141
02:27:35,911 --> 02:27:34,421
Veritas I'm paid to black our guests Mel

3142
02:27:36,530 --> 02:27:35,921
some arrows Jimmy Church we'll be right

3143
02:27:59,620 --> 02:27:36,540
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3144
02:28:02,300 --> 02:27:59,630
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fàbregas time well we started to talk

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about Apollo earlier J Widener comes up

3236
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:46,720
that just means we have to go straight

3237
02:32:51,719 --> 02:32:49,090
back to it but you said something that

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caught my attention earlier where you

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said that you know we're bypassing the

3240
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moon and going straight to Mars why do

3241
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:00,069
you think that is because that appears

3242
02:33:04,110 --> 02:33:01,930
to be the case for sure but why do you

3243
02:33:05,849 --> 02:33:04,120
think that is well I think that right

3244
02:33:08,939 --> 02:33:05,859
now we have a very inexpensive

3245
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telescopes so if we pretended that we

3246
02:33:13,979 --> 02:33:11,350
were going to the moon and I don't think

3247
02:33:17,189 --> 02:33:13,989
that with what NASA presented us in the

3248
02:33:19,469 --> 02:33:17,199
late 1960s and early 70s I don't think

3249
02:33:21,689 --> 02:33:19,479
we actually went and back then we didn't

3250
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:21,699
have the technology to be able to see

3251
02:33:27,179 --> 02:33:25,210
all that and what we call one small step

3252
02:33:31,010 --> 02:33:27,189
for man and one giant leap for mankind I

3253
02:33:33,269 --> 02:33:31,020
think it was 150 billion dollar hoax for

3254
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:33,279
mankind and the reason why I said that I

3255
02:33:37,679 --> 02:33:35,050
don't mean to offend people there are

3256
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:37,689
plenty of patriots and people who worked

3257
02:33:41,460 --> 02:33:40,000
at NASA during that time and some of you

3258
02:33:43,769 --> 02:33:41,470
have written to me saying how dare you

3259
02:33:45,269 --> 02:33:43,779
say that I was there well you didn't go

3260
02:33:48,750 --> 02:33:45,279
to the moon with them so how do you

3261
02:33:51,599 --> 02:33:48,760
really know and what I'm told is that

3262
02:33:53,849 --> 02:33:51,609
the Charter the NASA Charter actually

3263
02:33:55,410 --> 02:33:53,859
came from the Department of Defense and

3264
02:33:58,740 --> 02:33:55,420
what abate would have been told is that

3265
02:34:01,800 --> 02:33:58,750
there are two programs the civil and the

3266
02:34:03,599 --> 02:34:01,810
military one at least the civil one I

3267
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:03,609
don't think we want to if we actually

3268
02:34:08,130 --> 02:34:06,010
went well we're not showing the pictures

3269
02:34:10,139 --> 02:34:08,140
perhaps we did it with the military but

3270
02:34:12,809 --> 02:34:10,149
what I'm told is that whenever NASA

3271
02:34:16,139 --> 02:34:12,819
since the rocket or a space shuttle up

3272
02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:16,149
there's always a dual partner in the

3273
02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:18,160
military going through you know

3274
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:22,660
Vanderburgh or you know Kwajalein that

3275
02:34:28,650 --> 02:34:26,830
they send those ships up there at the

3276
02:34:30,450 --> 02:34:28,660
same time this person that I gotta be

3277
02:34:32,519 --> 02:34:30,460
interviewing shortly his father

3278
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:32,529
allegedly was an engineer that worked at

3279
02:34:38,961 --> 02:34:35,920
area 51 he took his son to one of those

3280
02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:38,971
Air Force bases and he showed one of the

3281
02:34:46,190 --> 02:34:42,210
gray space shuttles not the ones that

3282
02:34:48,350 --> 02:34:46,200
were used to seeing so you know to

3283
02:34:50,511 --> 02:34:48,360
answer your question I don't know if we

3284
02:34:53,930 --> 02:34:50,521
went to the moon or not but with what we

3285
02:34:56,230 --> 02:34:53,940
have been given the fact that the the

3286
02:34:59,421 --> 02:34:56,240
uniforms they that the vests were not

3287
02:35:02,591 --> 02:34:59,431
gold-plated the Hasselblad cameras were

3288
02:35:05,661 --> 02:35:02,601
not gold-plated the differential in

3289
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:05,671
temperature during the day and the

3290
02:35:10,730 --> 02:35:08,160
evening and the moon the temperature

3291
02:35:14,841 --> 02:35:10,740
difference would renders those that the

3292
02:35:17,301 --> 02:35:14,851
film useless not to mention over 3,000

3293
02:35:19,940 --> 02:35:17,311
miles of the Van Allen belt which by the

3294
02:35:21,950 --> 02:35:19,950
way one NASA engineer about a year or

3295
02:35:24,890 --> 02:35:21,960
two ago there's a video on the web

3296
02:35:27,980 --> 02:35:24,900
anybody can YouTube it he's saying we

3297
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:27,990
are now prepared to provide our

3298
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:30,450
astronauts a way to go through the Van

3299
02:35:34,430 --> 02:35:32,730
Allen belt and the first thing that came

3300
02:35:37,671 --> 02:35:34,440
to mind was wait a second thing we do

3301
02:35:39,740 --> 02:35:37,681
that almost 50 years ago so when you

3302
02:35:42,291 --> 02:35:39,750
look at the pictures from NASA and you

3303
02:35:45,011 --> 02:35:42,301
see the lunar module on the alleged moon

3304
02:35:49,041 --> 02:35:45,021
and you don't see any soil disturbance

3305
02:35:51,261 --> 02:35:49,051
you see almost like you know paper and

3306
02:35:54,591 --> 02:35:51,271
you see these you know very flimsy

3307
02:35:56,331 --> 02:35:54,601
material I just don't see how what we

3308
02:35:58,220 --> 02:35:56,341
were shown there I think what we were

3309
02:36:00,711 --> 02:35:58,230
shown there was filmed in a studio in

3310
02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:00,721
the event that something happened on the

3311
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:03,330
way to the moon or at the moon and if he

3312
02:36:07,940 --> 02:36:05,280
actually went there and what this man is

3313
02:36:11,180 --> 02:36:07,950
telling me is that we actually got there

3314
02:36:13,791 --> 02:36:11,190
and we didn't discover them on somebody

3315
02:36:17,200 --> 02:36:13,801
was already there that's the other side

3316
02:36:20,900 --> 02:36:17,210
of the story that is the other side and

3317
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:20,910
for me and I wanted we got to go back to

3318
02:36:28,060 --> 02:36:24,240
Flat Earth right after this for me when

3319
02:36:33,020 --> 02:36:28,070
I went to the Smithsonian and I see

3320
02:36:35,240 --> 02:36:33,030
apollo gemini and apollo gemini and

3321
02:36:39,140 --> 02:36:35,250
mercury capsules and i look at those and

3322
02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:39,150
especially the apollo one that

3323
02:36:44,600 --> 02:36:41,610
technology because you can go right at

3324
02:36:48,131 --> 02:36:44,610
me look and you look inside and there's

3325
02:36:52,490 --> 02:36:48,141
you know a couple of levers right a

3326
02:36:55,969 --> 02:36:52,500
couple of couple of uh vu meters but

3327
02:36:58,700 --> 02:36:55,979
there's no technology in that thing I

3328
02:37:00,800 --> 02:36:58,710
that's the disturbing part and knowing

3329
02:37:03,860 --> 02:37:00,810
what I know now about micrometeorites

3330
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:03,870
and and radiation and heat like you're

3331
02:37:08,179 --> 02:37:06,210
talking about heat dissipation in that

3332
02:37:10,130 --> 02:37:08,189
that capsule it would have to be moving

3333
02:37:12,410 --> 02:37:10,140
all the time because great it would be

3334
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:12,420
heated up on once I'm talking you know

3335
02:37:17,300 --> 02:37:14,250
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

3336
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:17,310
degrees instantly and then you've got to

3337
02:37:22,700 --> 02:37:19,850
cool it off on the other side it's cool

3338
02:37:24,170 --> 02:37:22,710
you know what I mean and the shadows on

3339
02:37:26,059 --> 02:37:24,180
the moon you're standing in the shadow

3340
02:37:28,670 --> 02:37:26,069
you step out of the shadow you get baked

3341
02:37:31,880 --> 02:37:28,680
you step into the shadow and you're at

3342
02:37:34,429 --> 02:37:31,890
minus 200 degrees or whatever no that's

3343
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:34,439
that I don't see those spacesuits and

3344
02:37:39,170 --> 02:37:37,050
whatever's in those backpacks keeping up

3345
02:37:41,630 --> 02:37:39,180
with that that's just me is the

3346
02:37:45,290 --> 02:37:41,640
technology side of it now but if that's

3347
02:37:49,219 --> 02:37:45,300
the case what about Edgar Mitchell you

3348
02:37:52,010 --> 02:37:49,229
know and you interview him now what do

3349
02:37:55,309 --> 02:37:52,020
you do with that you know do you say

3350
02:37:56,929 --> 02:37:55,319
okay I don't believe that you did it you

3351
02:37:58,639 --> 02:37:56,939
know what do you what do you do with

3352
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:58,649
with that when you're dealing with

3353
02:38:03,559 --> 02:38:01,200
somebody that is is a hero and we do

3354
02:38:06,349 --> 02:38:03,569
look up to well that's what we think we

3355
02:38:08,540 --> 02:38:06,359
think they're heroes and you know did a

3356
02:38:11,690 --> 02:38:08,550
lot of great for the UFO community too

3357
02:38:13,820 --> 02:38:11,700
yes but a lot of great you know validity

3358
02:38:16,849 --> 02:38:13,830
for we trying to accomplish and he was

3359
02:38:19,849 --> 02:38:16,859
the one did one astronaut that continued

3360
02:38:22,429 --> 02:38:19,859
to discuss the secrecy but then he had

3361
02:38:24,740 --> 02:38:22,439
Neil Armstrong who never addressed

3362
02:38:25,940 --> 02:38:24,750
anything he did not give an interview me

3363
02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:25,950
as a seven-year-old

3364
02:38:30,889 --> 02:38:28,319
I remember in Puerto Rico he was gonna

3365
02:38:33,710 --> 02:38:30,899
be arriving to give a press conference

3366
02:38:35,420 --> 02:38:33,720
in the the port's that was there since 7

3367
02:38:37,370 --> 02:38:35,430
o'clock in the morning you know ready to

3368
02:38:39,620 --> 02:38:37,380
say welcome mr. Armstrong he never

3369
02:38:42,260 --> 02:38:39,630
showed up and he never gave interviews

3370
02:38:44,780 --> 02:38:42,270
and you could see it when they came back

3371
02:38:48,290 --> 02:38:44,790
allegedly from the moon the very first

3372
02:38:50,540 --> 02:38:48,300
press conference you would think I you

3373
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:50,550
and I would be jumping up and down again

3374
02:38:57,500 --> 02:38:54,479
the best point ever technology wise for

3375
02:39:00,469 --> 02:38:57,510
Humanity yet we see these three people

3376
02:39:02,479 --> 02:39:00,479
they're almost as if somebody died that

3377
02:39:05,269 --> 02:39:02,489
makes no sense to me but again it's to

3378
02:39:06,219 --> 02:39:05,279
technology the Russians were more ahead

3379
02:39:08,950 --> 02:39:06,229
than we were the way

3380
02:39:12,370 --> 02:39:08,960
up there first and all of a sudden we

3381
02:39:14,410 --> 02:39:12,380
have all this we have you know able to

3382
02:39:17,019 --> 02:39:14,420
go every single time with the exception

3383
02:39:19,330 --> 02:39:17,029
of course the ones that have failed and

3384
02:39:22,210 --> 02:39:19,340
the other one that almost didn't make it

3385
02:39:24,880 --> 02:39:22,220
but in every occasion we made it and we

3386
02:39:29,529 --> 02:39:24,890
brought all this from the moon and now

3387
02:39:32,319 --> 02:39:29,539
somebody gives in Europe a souvenir of a

3388
02:39:33,550 --> 02:39:32,329
you know balloon or rocket and then they

3389
02:39:36,250 --> 02:39:33,560
were able to find out that it was

3390
02:39:38,019 --> 02:39:36,260
actually petrified wood yeah I don't

3391
02:39:40,269 --> 02:39:38,029
know it's just very strange to me I

3392
02:39:42,219 --> 02:39:40,279
think this is a secret that has to be

3393
02:39:43,389 --> 02:39:42,229
kept I don't know if it was Stanley

3394
02:39:46,239 --> 02:39:43,399
Kubrick who did it

3395
02:39:49,059 --> 02:39:46,249
it's very plausible because ever since

3396
02:39:52,450 --> 02:39:49,069
that happened Stanley Kubrick did not

3397
02:39:54,660 --> 02:39:52,460
move from London every single movie he

3398
02:39:56,920 --> 02:39:54,670
made even if it was gonna be in Vietnam

3399
02:39:59,229 --> 02:39:56,930
he could have used many other locations

3400
02:39:59,800 --> 02:39:59,239
but full-metal-jacket was fully filmed

3401
02:40:01,689 --> 02:39:59,810
in London

3402
02:40:03,939 --> 02:40:01,699
they seemed with the same thing with the

3403
02:40:05,859 --> 02:40:03,949
other movies he was scared of coming

3404
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:05,869
back to the United States and we start

3405
02:40:10,120 --> 02:40:07,010
looking at all the people that were

3406
02:40:13,450 --> 02:40:10,130
involved in this many of them

3407
02:40:15,639 --> 02:40:13,460
disappeared or died mysteriously and the

3408
02:40:19,210 --> 02:40:15,649
fact that we haven't gone you know past

3409
02:40:21,399 --> 02:40:19,220
400 miles you know up that that's a

3410
02:40:22,660 --> 02:40:21,409
pretty trippy thing for me and second

3411
02:40:25,450 --> 02:40:22,670
that video that you're talking about

3412
02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:25,460
that an interview when he said that

3413
02:40:29,950 --> 02:40:28,130
press conference when that NASA engineer

3414
02:40:31,929 --> 02:40:29,960
goes well finally we've got the

3415
02:40:39,330 --> 02:40:31,939
technology to get through the Van Allen

3416
02:40:41,710 --> 02:40:39,340
belt but back back up a step here we

3417
02:40:43,750 --> 02:40:41,720
allegedly already did that many times

3418
02:40:46,269 --> 02:40:43,760
over and now you're addressing it a

3419
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:46,279
second time around that's a pretty

3420
02:40:50,229 --> 02:40:48,770
trippy thing for you to just suggest out

3421
02:40:52,809 --> 02:40:50,239
there and I can't believe more people

3422
02:40:55,330 --> 02:40:52,819
didn't pick up on it somebody asked Alan

3423
02:40:57,370 --> 02:40:55,340
bean one of the astronauts mr. bean

3424
02:41:00,639 --> 02:40:57,380
what's your reaction to the the fact

3425
02:41:03,130 --> 02:41:00,649
that all of a sudden what about the Van

3426
02:41:06,729 --> 02:41:03,140
Allen belt and his answer was what we

3427
02:41:08,380 --> 02:41:06,739
hadn't discovered it then does that mean

3428
02:41:10,510 --> 02:41:08,390
that because he wasn't discovered you

3429
02:41:13,210 --> 02:41:10,520
didn't go through it so the answers are

3430
02:41:15,040 --> 02:41:13,220
so infantile yeah that I just don't

3431
02:41:17,469 --> 02:41:15,050
understand how people just buy it yeah

3432
02:41:19,029 --> 02:41:17,479
radiation out of sight out of mine we

3433
02:41:19,751 --> 02:41:19,039
didn't know it was there so it didn't

3434
02:41:21,791 --> 02:41:19,761
affect us

3435
02:41:25,060 --> 02:41:21,801
doesn't work that way it looked to me to

3436
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:25,070
me anything that is discovered to me or

3437
02:41:29,770 --> 02:41:27,650
creator or invented the car everything

3438
02:41:33,011 --> 02:41:29,780
is commercialized you gonna tell me that

3439
02:41:36,131 --> 02:41:33,021
by now the 21st century we don't have

3440
02:41:37,301 --> 02:41:36,141
hotels or tourism space tourism imagine

3441
02:41:39,640 --> 02:41:37,311
platforms up there

3442
02:41:41,381 --> 02:41:39,650
there's no way that we haven't returned

3443
02:41:43,331 --> 02:41:41,391
in 50 years and now all of a sudden

3444
02:41:45,161 --> 02:41:43,341
we're gonna go to Mars you know when you

3445
02:41:47,201 --> 02:41:45,171
look at what's happening in Greenland

3446
02:41:51,220 --> 02:41:47,211
and other places and you go to Google

3447
02:41:53,411 --> 02:41:51,230
Earth and you see that that geographical

3448
02:41:56,111 --> 02:41:53,421
area and you see some Rovers there were

3449
02:41:58,541 --> 02:41:56,121
NASA quote have good practices it looks

3450
02:42:00,491 --> 02:41:58,551
exactly if we can manipulate Photoshop

3451
02:42:03,011 --> 02:42:00,501
and put a little bit redder order like a

3452
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:03,021
red tint mm-hm it is exactly what we see

3453
02:42:08,201 --> 02:42:06,110
these Rovers were supposed to be there

3454
02:42:09,731 --> 02:42:08,211
for I think it was two months and they

3455
02:42:14,531 --> 02:42:09,741
have been there for years by the way who

3456
02:42:19,991 --> 02:42:14,541
cleans the lens after the Martian dust

3457
02:42:23,231 --> 02:42:20,001
storms so makes you wonder to the the

3458
02:42:26,741 --> 02:42:23,241
video of the International Space Station

3459
02:42:28,390 --> 02:42:26,751
again as far as we go now it was the

3460
02:42:31,081 --> 02:42:28,400
Space Shuttle but you know we just stay

3461
02:42:34,470 --> 02:42:31,091
here in Earth's orbit and the video of

3462
02:42:36,761 --> 02:42:34,480
the International Space Station going

3463
02:42:40,031 --> 02:42:36,771
around the earth is some of the most

3464
02:42:43,781 --> 02:42:40,041
incredible I measure mesmerized by those

3465
02:42:46,841 --> 02:42:43,791
videos when you see those and we discuss

3466
02:42:48,970 --> 02:42:46,851
the Flat Earth or you see the Space

3467
02:42:51,461 --> 02:42:48,980
Shuttle videos with the arm and

3468
02:42:54,071 --> 02:42:51,471
retrieving satellites and you're looking

3469
02:42:56,261 --> 02:42:54,081
at the earth you know as a globe in the

3470
02:42:59,291 --> 02:42:56,271
background do you have an issue with

3471
02:43:03,100 --> 02:42:59,301
that is is NASA if that's the case if

3472
02:43:06,850 --> 02:43:03,110
the earth is flat then that means every

3473
02:43:09,751 --> 02:43:06,860
single video before Photoshop and CGI

3474
02:43:12,731 --> 02:43:09,761
has been perfected has been completely

3475
02:43:14,291 --> 02:43:12,741
manipulated where would NASA have that

3476
02:43:16,600 --> 02:43:14,301
technology because that's the only

3477
02:43:19,060 --> 02:43:16,610
answer we would have everything has been

3478
02:43:22,031 --> 02:43:19,070
manipulated well I have to tell you at

3479
02:43:23,051 --> 02:43:22,041
ESET II again and and this is one of the

3480
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:23,061
issues I have with the Flat Earth

3481
02:43:31,241 --> 02:43:26,110
because when I was there we were seeing

3482
02:43:33,491 --> 02:43:31,251
this so-called ISS you probably saw it

3483
02:43:33,700 --> 02:43:33,501
too yep yeah I hope you know everything

3484
02:43:35,650 --> 02:43:33,710
is

3485
02:43:37,630 --> 02:43:35,660
every hour mm-hmm it would come and we

3486
02:43:38,410 --> 02:43:37,640
would see it now some people say oh

3487
02:43:41,469 --> 02:43:38,420
that's not it

3488
02:43:45,520 --> 02:43:41,479
well something big was coming around and

3489
02:43:48,790 --> 02:43:45,530
I remember in 2011 or 2012 the Space

3490
02:43:51,820 --> 02:43:48,800
Shuttle was supposedly linked to it at

3491
02:43:55,030 --> 02:43:51,830
the time and we actually kind of saw

3492
02:43:56,590 --> 02:43:55,040
something behind it so again I'm

3493
02:43:59,530 --> 02:43:56,600
open-minded to all of this but you know

3494
02:44:02,800 --> 02:43:59,540
I have I have questions the first time I

3495
02:44:05,890 --> 02:44:02,810
saw the ISS no let me correct myself the

3496
02:44:08,920 --> 02:44:05,900
only time I have seen a watch tip with

3497
02:44:12,010 --> 02:44:08,930
my naked eye this was we had some

3498
02:44:13,900 --> 02:44:12,020
friends with and they had the app on

3499
02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:13,910
their phone and they're like hey check

3500
02:44:18,280 --> 02:44:14,690
this out

3501
02:44:20,260 --> 02:44:18,290
it's gonna fly directly over us in ten

3502
02:44:22,780 --> 02:44:20,270
minutes all right so we run outside and

3503
02:44:24,610 --> 02:44:22,790
we go out front and and our friend

3504
02:44:26,200 --> 02:44:24,620
points over you know it's gonna pop up

3505
02:44:29,440 --> 02:44:26,210
over there and it's gonna and sure

3506
02:44:31,930 --> 02:44:29,450
enough to the second right pops up over

3507
02:44:36,340 --> 02:44:31,940
the horizon and and and flies right over

3508
02:44:38,710 --> 02:44:36,350
us and and disappears but you can this

3509
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:38,720
is not your imagination you can see the

3510
02:44:46,060 --> 02:44:42,080
solar panels you can see shape you can

3511
02:44:49,540 --> 02:44:46,070
see that is definitely orbiting the

3512
02:44:52,210 --> 02:44:49,550
upper planet and it's it's so cool that

3513
02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:52,220
it is so massive I don't know how many

3514
02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:55,010
miles up it is but but it is so massive

3515
02:45:00,040 --> 02:44:56,960
that you can actually see it's not a

3516
02:45:02,950 --> 02:45:00,050
white dot you can actually see shape to

3517
02:45:04,540 --> 02:45:02,960
it but for NASA's credibility for

3518
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:04,550
example to I think it's two years ago

3519
02:45:10,420 --> 02:45:08,240
you probably saw that video of epic the

3520
02:45:13,450 --> 02:45:10,430
telescope the epic telescope mm-hmm that

3521
02:45:17,050 --> 02:45:13,460
shows Earth and you see the moon going

3522
02:45:19,630 --> 02:45:17,060
in front of Earth yes going around it

3523
02:45:22,690 --> 02:45:19,640
but not a single cloud formation moves

3524
02:45:23,950 --> 02:45:22,700
and this is an issue I have because if

3525
02:45:26,560 --> 02:45:23,960
you look at the size of Earth in

3526
02:45:28,780 --> 02:45:26,570
comparison to to the moon then all these

3527
02:45:31,930 --> 02:45:28,790
images that we get from the moon where

3528
02:45:34,960 --> 02:45:31,940
we show the little blue marble that is

3529
02:45:37,410 --> 02:45:34,970
impossible with the size of Earth that

3530
02:45:40,510 --> 02:45:37,420
should be covering the entire panorama

3531
02:45:42,850 --> 02:45:40,520
so these are questions that I have and

3532
02:45:47,019 --> 02:45:42,860
NASA cannot answer them or they refuse

3533
02:45:49,329 --> 02:45:47,029
to answer them I had I had mark

3534
02:45:51,880 --> 02:45:49,339
Dantonio on the show yes I know him yes

3535
02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:51,890
yeah last month on the show and I'm

3536
02:45:56,170 --> 02:45:53,930
putting him to task I'm like look with

3537
02:46:00,000 --> 02:45:56,180
all of the amateur astronomers on this

3538
02:46:03,099 --> 02:46:00,010
planet that are finding asteroids right

3539
02:46:05,829 --> 02:46:03,109
that NASA can't find or anybody else or

3540
02:46:07,269 --> 02:46:05,839
these big professional observatories we

3541
02:46:08,939 --> 02:46:07,279
have all these astronomers around the

3542
02:46:13,269 --> 02:46:08,949
world with telescopes in the backyard

3543
02:46:16,059 --> 02:46:13,279
why can't why can't Hubble shoot the

3544
02:46:18,279 --> 02:46:16,069
moon why can't we look at the moon

3545
02:46:20,439 --> 02:46:18,289
accurately why can't we point the

3546
02:46:22,449 --> 02:46:20,449
Palomar Observatory the Vatican

3547
02:46:24,729 --> 02:46:22,459
telescope or Lucifer or any of these

3548
02:46:28,510 --> 02:46:24,739
other things that they have at the moon

3549
02:46:30,989 --> 02:46:28,520
and let's look at things close-up why

3550
02:46:34,269 --> 02:46:30,999
not and he gave me a pretty long

3551
02:46:37,510 --> 02:46:34,279
explanation as to why and how the the

3552
02:46:40,179 --> 02:46:37,520
digital pickups on Hubble you know one

3553
02:46:44,769 --> 02:46:40,189
pixel and the moon would only be one

3554
02:46:46,569 --> 02:46:44,779
pixel one on Hubble you know what give

3555
02:46:48,010 --> 02:46:46,579
me some close-ups of the moon that's

3556
02:46:51,099 --> 02:46:48,020
what I want

3557
02:46:53,229 --> 02:46:51,109
I cannot believe when I was a kid

3558
02:46:55,149 --> 02:46:53,239
I would sit out with my dad's telescope

3559
02:46:57,789 --> 02:46:55,159
and I would look at all the craters on

3560
02:47:01,210 --> 02:46:57,799
the moon with this little telescope in

3561
02:47:01,659 --> 02:47:01,220
the backyard why can't we look at the

3562
02:47:03,460 --> 02:47:01,669
moon

3563
02:47:07,059 --> 02:47:03,470
why can't we look at all of this stuff

3564
02:47:10,029 --> 02:47:07,069
we should be able to to see the the

3565
02:47:11,710 --> 02:47:10,039
rover tire tracks all over the place and

3566
02:47:14,010 --> 02:47:11,720
the Rovers up there somewhere

3567
02:47:16,659 --> 02:47:14,020
right where are those pictures

3568
02:47:18,340 --> 02:47:16,669
everything that we have is from far away

3569
02:47:20,949 --> 02:47:18,350
and you have to squint your eyes and go

3570
02:47:23,289 --> 02:47:20,959
ok I guess that's the rover you know I

3571
02:47:25,719 --> 02:47:23,299
guess that's the lunar lander I guess

3572
02:47:29,529 --> 02:47:25,729
that's the American flag okay where's

3573
02:47:33,159 --> 02:47:29,539
the close-up of the campsite exactly I

3574
02:47:37,179 --> 02:47:33,169
don't know if you know the story of J

3575
02:47:38,380 --> 02:47:37,189
whitener and creature C Hoagland years

3576
02:47:41,229 --> 02:47:38,390
ago I don't know do you know the story

3577
02:47:44,800 --> 02:47:41,239
of how they were trying to to assemble

3578
02:47:48,130 --> 02:47:44,810
this operation to send a rocket to the

3579
02:47:50,260 --> 02:47:48,140
moon to map the moon in 3d yes and then

3580
02:47:53,319 --> 02:47:50,270
bring do you know the story how they

3581
02:47:55,899 --> 02:47:53,329
called NASA and a friend of Jays and

3582
02:47:57,519 --> 02:47:55,909
basically the guy said you're not going

3583
02:48:00,609 --> 02:47:57,529
to the moon if you try to launch a

3584
02:48:00,850 --> 02:48:00,619
rocket we'll just we'll just kill it out

3585
02:48:05,381 --> 02:48:00,860
of the

3586
02:48:07,810 --> 02:48:05,391
guy don't ever call me again y-you know

3587
02:48:10,390 --> 02:48:07,820
that's the thing and I get I get that

3588
02:48:11,350 --> 02:48:10,400
but I mean if you're hiding I'm if you

3589
02:48:14,261 --> 02:48:11,360
have nothing to hide

3590
02:48:16,421 --> 02:48:14,271
then what's the big deal if other why is

3591
02:48:20,110 --> 02:48:16,431
it now that the moon certain air where

3592
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:20,120
we landed you cannot go back any other

3593
02:48:26,501 --> 02:48:22,490
country they're not allowed to go where

3594
02:48:28,060 --> 02:48:26,511
we lend it China wanted to write China

3595
02:48:30,940 --> 02:48:28,070
wanted to but they were told you cannot

3596
02:48:34,301 --> 02:48:30,950
land where we lend it and that only you

3597
02:48:36,610 --> 02:48:34,311
would look at article there are over 15

3598
02:48:38,470 --> 02:48:36,620
nations they have a treaty there that do

3599
02:48:41,410 --> 02:48:38,480
not allow anybody to go beyond a certain

3600
02:48:44,200 --> 02:48:41,420
point what is there you would think that

3601
02:48:47,110 --> 02:48:44,210
if this story of emerald bird is true

3602
02:48:49,541 --> 02:48:47,120
that he found another continent out

3603
02:48:52,360 --> 02:48:49,551
there full of resources you would think

3604
02:48:54,011 --> 02:48:52,370
by now Exxon or the big big companies

3605
02:48:56,620 --> 02:48:54,021
would be out there mining or bringing

3606
02:48:58,600 --> 02:48:56,630
some of the their resources back here

3607
02:49:01,180 --> 02:48:58,610
but it's not allowed same thing with the

3608
02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:01,190
moon you would think that Amazon or or

3609
02:49:10,030 --> 02:49:05,530
you know Tesla or SpaceX would have a

3610
02:49:11,740 --> 02:49:10,040
camera up there looking at earth 24/7

3611
02:49:14,400 --> 02:49:11,750
and just have little commercials on the

3612
02:49:16,511 --> 02:49:14,410
right side and you can see earth 24/7

3613
02:49:19,060 --> 02:49:16,521
isn't it strange that he hasn't been

3614
02:49:21,100 --> 02:49:19,070
commercialized yet I think that we just

3615
02:49:23,020 --> 02:49:21,110
didn't have the capability or we were

3616
02:49:26,470 --> 02:49:23,030
told don't ever come back one of the to

3617
02:49:29,381 --> 02:49:26,480
do you think that the Vatican is also

3618
02:49:31,660 --> 02:49:29,391
because they've now flip-flopped if you

3619
02:49:34,990 --> 02:49:31,670
go back to Copernicus and Galileo they

3620
02:49:37,211 --> 02:49:35,000
flip-flop probably 200 times yes in the

3621
02:49:40,171 --> 02:49:37,221
last few hundred years I do you think

3622
02:49:45,180 --> 02:49:40,181
the Vatican has known from the beginning

3623
02:49:48,310 --> 02:49:45,190
the answer to to all of this and et

3624
02:49:49,841 --> 02:49:48,320
absolutely I think that well we think of

3625
02:49:52,541 --> 02:49:49,851
the burning of the Library of Alexandria

3626
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:52,551
I think that they kept a lot in the

3627
02:49:57,280 --> 02:49:55,040
catacombs underneath the Vatican I can

3628
02:49:59,171 --> 02:49:57,290
guarantee it they have so much stuff

3629
02:50:00,881 --> 02:49:59,181
there that they don't want to release

3630
02:50:04,631 --> 02:50:00,891
the world because it will be detrimental

3631
02:50:07,001 --> 02:50:04,641
to them but I remember 2009 I think it

3632
02:50:10,001 --> 02:50:07,011
was when this whole disclosure started

3633
02:50:10,990 --> 02:50:10,011
taking place once again somebody from

3634
02:50:13,900 --> 02:50:11,000
the Vatican said

3635
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:13,910
ETS our brother and then this TV series

3636
02:50:19,511 --> 02:50:14,570
V

3637
02:50:21,370 --> 02:50:19,521
don't remember when you know the priests

3638
02:50:24,280 --> 02:50:21,380
were concerned that people were gonna

3639
02:50:26,200 --> 02:50:24,290
give devotion to the ETS but no we

3640
02:50:28,300 --> 02:50:26,210
actually need more of the church now I

3641
02:50:30,190 --> 02:50:28,310
think they know look what's happening

3642
02:50:32,860 --> 02:50:30,200
here in Arizona they have as you

3643
02:50:35,770 --> 02:50:32,870
mentioned Lucifer that's actually right

3644
02:50:38,190 --> 02:50:35,780
here in the Vatican telescope he used to

3645
02:50:41,261 --> 02:50:38,200
be in the night until the 1980s in

3646
02:50:42,670 --> 02:50:41,271
Castel Gandolfo in Rome but because of

3647
02:50:44,680 --> 02:50:42,680
the visual pollution they needed to

3648
02:50:46,690 --> 02:50:44,690
scout for another location where did

3649
02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:46,700
they find it right here into some

3650
02:50:51,220 --> 02:50:49,250
probably about 35 40 miles away from me

3651
02:50:52,930 --> 02:50:51,230
so why is it they're looking for

3652
02:50:56,020 --> 02:50:52,940
wormwood from the Beirut planet-x

3653
02:50:58,900 --> 02:50:56,030
why so much interest in what's happening

3654
02:51:03,011 --> 02:50:58,910
outside of planet Earth if allegedly we

3655
02:51:05,970 --> 02:51:03,021
are alone in the universe and I kind of

3656
02:51:12,190 --> 02:51:05,980
want to leave with this when we look at

3657
02:51:14,170 --> 02:51:12,200
guys like Van Tassel and Adamski and the

3658
02:51:18,940 --> 02:51:14,180
Venetians and all of the contact he

3659
02:51:20,530 --> 02:51:18,950
movement of the 50s and you look at all

3660
02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:20,540
of those interviews from people on the

3661
02:51:26,020 --> 02:51:22,970
street yeah cruised on a flying saucer

3662
02:51:30,190 --> 02:51:26,030
last week and and and you watch these

3663
02:51:32,170 --> 02:51:30,200
over and over and over again with the

3664
02:51:34,750 --> 02:51:32,180
damn ski with Van Tassel and the rest of

3665
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:34,760
that movement from the 50s do you think

3666
02:51:38,860 --> 02:51:36,850
that there was actually something to

3667
02:51:44,620 --> 02:51:38,870
that do you think that there was

3668
02:51:46,570 --> 02:51:44,630
something going on that that the

3669
02:51:48,970 --> 02:51:46,580
government knew about and they're going

3670
02:51:52,180 --> 02:51:48,980
to and I want to address this too today

3671
02:51:54,130 --> 02:51:52,190
the tinfoil hat thing everybody is crazy

3672
02:51:56,470 --> 02:51:54,140
that's what happened in the 50s

3673
02:52:00,820 --> 02:51:56,480
everything gets dismissed we're going

3674
02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:00,830
through that again today here do you

3675
02:52:05,620 --> 02:52:03,050
think there was something to Adamski and

3676
02:52:07,570 --> 02:52:05,630
Van Tassel and that movement I think

3677
02:52:09,520 --> 02:52:07,580
there was something to it I am at death

3678
02:52:11,710 --> 02:52:09,530
again I don't believe anybody I either

3679
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:11,720
know or I don't I can only take their

3680
02:52:16,300 --> 02:52:14,000
word for it at the same time I don't

3681
02:52:19,210 --> 02:52:16,310
like it when movements become cultic and

3682
02:52:21,130 --> 02:52:19,220
because the Adamski it was almost like a

3683
02:52:22,960 --> 02:52:21,140
call George Van Tassel the same thing

3684
02:52:25,330 --> 02:52:22,970
you know you have to look at this in a

3685
02:52:27,940 --> 02:52:25,340
very very objective manner and

3686
02:52:29,139 --> 02:52:27,950
you know scientifically if you will so

3687
02:52:31,300 --> 02:52:29,149
many people that you want to interview

3688
02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:31,310
all the time do we believe them well

3689
02:52:35,139 --> 02:52:33,200
unless they take me on a ride on the

3690
02:52:37,420 --> 02:52:35,149
spaceship all I can say it's this is

3691
02:52:39,070 --> 02:52:37,430
very interesting I am NOT denouncing

3692
02:52:41,230 --> 02:52:39,080
what you're saying I cannot prove you

3693
02:52:43,810 --> 02:52:41,240
otherwise at the same time I've had

3694
02:52:46,120 --> 02:52:43,820
witnesses who have such a compelling

3695
02:52:48,250 --> 02:52:46,130
story Chris Bledsoe I don't know if you

3696
02:52:50,679 --> 02:52:48,260
know who he is absolutely incredible

3697
02:52:52,810 --> 02:52:50,689
story of somebody who was a very

3698
02:52:55,330 --> 02:52:52,820
successful contractor very little

3699
02:52:57,160 --> 02:52:55,340
religious family and his story is just

3700
02:52:59,349 --> 02:52:57,170
when you listen to what he has to say

3701
02:53:03,520 --> 02:52:59,359
you think wait a second you know maybe

3702
02:53:08,849 --> 02:53:03,530
there's something to this yeah I was

3703
02:53:12,179 --> 02:53:08,859
just thinking Thomas Reid I mean yeah

3704
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:12,189
another example of a successful family

3705
02:53:18,639 --> 02:53:16,000
families and politics dad's a politician

3706
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:18,649
everything is correct about the family

3707
02:53:24,340 --> 02:53:22,250
but yet he's got this incredible story

3708
02:53:26,020 --> 02:53:24,350
so where do you go with this you know me

3709
02:53:27,940 --> 02:53:26,030
and my brother we walked on the crab

3710
02:53:30,490 --> 02:53:27,950
they showed us this they took us in a

3711
02:53:34,480 --> 02:53:30,500
classroom and it showed us and what do

3712
02:53:36,070 --> 02:53:34,490
you do with that so much today is talked

3713
02:53:38,380 --> 02:53:36,080
about evidence I know you're dealing

3714
02:53:41,380 --> 02:53:38,390
with the same thing okay well this is

3715
02:53:43,929 --> 02:53:41,390
great the story is great but what about

3716
02:53:46,210 --> 02:53:43,939
the evidence and and how do you answer

3717
02:53:48,130 --> 02:53:46,220
that when somebody says to you Mel okay

3718
02:53:50,020 --> 02:53:48,140
it's it's great that you had them on the

3719
02:53:51,880 --> 02:53:50,030
show but you didn't ask him about

3720
02:53:54,670 --> 02:53:51,890
evidence you know what about the

3721
02:53:56,349 --> 02:53:54,680
evidence how do you answer that now I've

3722
02:53:58,330 --> 02:53:56,359
asked the question many times I've said

3723
02:53:59,679 --> 02:53:58,340
hey where they come from a lot of times

3724
02:54:01,929 --> 02:53:59,689
one of the figure in the answer

3725
02:54:02,770 --> 02:54:01,939
frequently asked questions is that but

3726
02:54:04,690 --> 02:54:02,780
they don't want to tell us where they

3727
02:54:06,190 --> 02:54:04,700
come from I would would you if you look

3728
02:54:07,480 --> 02:54:06,200
at the amount of turmoil that we have on

3729
02:54:09,639 --> 02:54:07,490
this planet and the way we treat each

3730
02:54:11,560 --> 02:54:09,649
other would you give your address so I

3731
02:54:15,070 --> 02:54:11,570
get that but you know are you bringing

3732
02:54:16,389 --> 02:54:15,080
me a an ashtray from the craft are you

3733
02:54:18,639 --> 02:54:16,399
bringing me some kind of evidence and

3734
02:54:21,370 --> 02:54:18,649
the answer is always no they're not they

3735
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:21,380
don't allow you they disable you they

3736
02:54:25,719 --> 02:54:24,080
paralyze you I can only take their word

3737
02:54:28,960 --> 02:54:25,729
for what they're saying this is an area

3738
02:54:31,900 --> 02:54:28,970
that I'm very very interested in and I'm

3739
02:54:34,630 --> 02:54:31,910
hoping that one day we can have more

3740
02:54:37,660 --> 02:54:34,640
evidence the question is with the powers

3741
02:54:39,219 --> 02:54:37,670
that want to be allow you I mean these

3742
02:54:41,200 --> 02:54:39,229
pictures that I'm talking about

3743
02:54:45,519 --> 02:54:41,210
Antonia saw those pictures by the way

3744
02:54:46,960 --> 02:54:45,529
and you know I had another guest at the

3745
02:54:49,029 --> 02:54:46,970
shaman and an Internet mentioned his

3746
02:54:51,550 --> 02:54:49,039
name he's elderly now but he was furious

3747
02:54:53,170 --> 02:54:51,560
with Mark because mark was debunking

3748
02:54:55,090 --> 02:54:53,180
every single one of them and the other

3749
02:54:56,649 --> 02:54:55,100
person who is a former military person

3750
02:54:59,080 --> 02:54:56,659
said mark come on now

3751
02:55:00,819 --> 02:54:59,090
but anyway love you marked as well so I

3752
02:55:02,920 --> 02:55:00,829
don't know big the answer is I don't

3753
02:55:05,410 --> 02:55:02,930
know I'm still looking I'm interested in

3754
02:55:08,620 --> 02:55:05,420
the topic I hope that one day we can

3755
02:55:10,239 --> 02:55:08,630
finally embrace these beings whether

3756
02:55:12,550 --> 02:55:10,249
they're interdimensional

3757
02:55:14,019 --> 02:55:12,560
extraterrestrial or simply coming from

3758
02:55:17,019 --> 02:55:14,029
another puddle if you believe in the

3759
02:55:19,809 --> 02:55:17,029
Flat Earth whatever it is I strongly

3760
02:55:22,510 --> 02:55:19,819
believe in my heart in my soul that

3761
02:55:24,939 --> 02:55:22,520
there's life outside of this plane or

3762
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:24,949
this planet and there are answers to

3763
02:55:29,109 --> 02:55:26,479
many questions and I hope that one day

3764
02:55:31,870 --> 02:55:29,119
we can interact with them thank you so

3765
02:55:35,380 --> 02:55:31,880
much malware can everybody go and check

3766
02:55:37,090 --> 02:55:35,390
out Veritas and and and you know listen

3767
02:55:39,370 --> 02:55:37,100
to all of your new stuff as well as your

3768
02:55:43,300 --> 02:55:39,380
archives very simple just go to very

3769
02:55:45,309 --> 02:55:43,310
task radio.com also like us on Facebook

3770
02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:45,319
I interact with our listeners there but

3771
02:55:50,439 --> 02:55:47,840
just very tes radio.com we're only

3772
02:55:52,510 --> 02:55:50,449
subscriber base we have no sponsors only

3773
02:55:55,179 --> 02:55:52,520
people like you folks listening either

3774
02:55:56,769 --> 02:55:55,189
ones that keep the truth going thank you

3775
02:55:59,830 --> 02:55:56,779
so much for all that you do my friend

3776
02:56:02,769 --> 02:55:59,840
and let's not take so long to get you on

3777
02:56:04,960 --> 02:56:02,779
the next time and hopefully I'll be able

3778
02:56:08,109 --> 02:56:04,970
to get things set up and we'll get you

3779
02:56:10,750 --> 02:56:08,119
finally on coast this weekend and then

3780
02:56:12,370 --> 02:56:10,760
of course I'll go over to Veritas and

3781
02:56:14,889 --> 02:56:12,380
absolutely not you have to go to very

3782
02:56:17,319 --> 02:56:14,899
tight it's been an honor Jimmy doing a

3783
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:17,329
great job I love your stuff and end-use

3784
02:56:20,559 --> 02:56:18,319
one of the people that I'd like to

3785
02:56:22,269 --> 02:56:20,569
emulate as well thank you so much Mel be

3786
02:56:23,739 --> 02:56:22,279
safe out there my friend and I'll give

3787
02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:23,749
you a call tomorrow first thing you -

3788
02:56:31,500 --> 02:56:28,010
Thank You mo Mel fàbregas again Veritas

3789
02:56:35,439 --> 02:56:31,510
is very simple Veritas radio.com and

3790
02:56:37,359 --> 02:56:35,449
again all subscriber based over there so

3791
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:37,369
take the time to go and check it out all

3792
02:56:44,050 --> 02:56:40,399
the archives are over there as well Mel

3793
02:56:46,300 --> 02:56:44,060
fàbregas so with that Mel thank you for

3794
02:56:48,340 --> 02:56:46,310
going into overtime with me and I've got

3795
02:56:51,880 --> 02:56:48,350
to get out of here we took it to the

3796
02:56:52,410 --> 02:56:51,890
absolute bloody end tomorrow night on

3797
02:56:54,450 --> 02:56:52,420
the

3798
02:56:58,230 --> 02:56:54,460
we had rattles and we're gonna do an

3799
02:56:59,610 --> 02:56:58,240
eclipse a total eclipse recap I do want

3800
02:57:01,290 --> 02:56:59,620
to see all of your pictures and your

3801
02:57:03,480 --> 02:57:01,300
stories we'll do all of that tomorrow

3802
02:57:06,570 --> 02:57:03,490
we're gonna have Brad on he was up in

3803
02:57:08,070 --> 02:57:06,580
Idaho he got the total eclipse that's

3804
02:57:10,950 --> 02:57:08,080
what we're gonna do tomorrow night and

3805
02:57:12,080 --> 02:57:10,960
again Thursday night Ralph Ellis will be

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02:57:15,150 --> 02:57:12,090
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02:57:17,460 --> 02:57:15,160
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